Snape & Draco (and a little Lupin)

[Elizabeth Dalton]

No: HPFGUIDX 32642


> From: "anakzaman" <anakzaman at yahoo.com>

> 
> In GoF, when Voldemort summoned the Death Eaters, 6 were missing. 
> Three were dead, one too cowardly to return (Karakoff I presume), on 
> who has re-entered his service (Barty Crouch Jr.) and one who Voldy 
> believed has left him forever. That one should be Snape.
> 
> Since Lucious Malfoy was there, he should be able to figure that out. 
> So what is going to happen with Draco and Snape? Draco would tell his 
> dad that Snape is a spy, or Lucious would tell his son that Snape is 
> not faithful to Voldemort anymore. 
> 

Actually, I think you may have just turned up the real reason for 
Voldemort to have been so obscure at this point. He names the DEs who 
are there, but not those who aren't. This always seemed a bit weird to 
me, given that this is an evil secret society. Wouldn't it be more 
appropriate to tell everyone the identities of the deserters?

Voldemort certainly thinks he knows who is who, and we think so too. 
But the rest of the DEs might well assume that Snape is the faithful 
follower who has already re-entered V.s service -- and Crouch isn't 
around to gainsay this. Snape might not be able to spy directly in 
Voldemort's view, but he might be able to get info off the rest of the 
DEs if he can convince them that he's the one V. was praising.

jo ellen wrote:


> For those members of the group who are not familiar 
> with "the Andy Griffith Show" in the states, Snape is a dead ringer 
> for deputy Barney Fife, who always had to keep his bullet for his gun 
> in his shirt pocket to keep from shooting himself in the foot. 

I don't see this at all. I think he's normally quite clever, but he has 
a particular blind spot regarding anything involving Harry (or James, 
Sirius, or Lupin, for that matter). Unfortunately, that's when we most 
see him. But a guy who is regarded as a great potions maker can't be a 
Barney Fife. That's precise work.

joanne0012 wrote:
> Oh, I agree completely that Snape's treatment of Harry is good for 
> him, but I'm not so sure that it's a coincidence or accident, I DO 
> think it's affection. 

Hm. I think "affection" might be too strong a word. Snape gets *really* 
nasty some times, and not just toward Harry. But it's possible that 
Snape really is trying to help in his own way. I keep trying to believe 
that. He could do much worse things to Harry than he does.

I agree about the elitist snob remarks, and your theories about how he 
got in with the DEs to begin with, though. (And I think Mahoney is 
right about his limits in this regard.)

Tabouli wrote more fun stuff about Snape:

> I'd say there must be reasonable odds on Snape and Harry finally 
> coming to like and respect each other pages before Snape dies a 
> dreadful yet valiant death, whispering the final key to the mystery 
> of Harry's past/defeating Voldemort/etc. with his dying breath.  What 
> say you, Snapefans?

Sounds about right to me. ("Rosebud...." ;) I'm officially agnostic on 
the LOLLIPOPS proposition, but it fits my theory either way: Lily is 
dead.

Although, as I've said before, Snape has defied formula to this point, 
so he may actually survive the entire series. Maybe he's just too mean 
to die. :)

(Though if he lives, Harry is a lot more likely to live, too, I think. 
Actually, if they both live and Snape is *still* nasty, that might take 
enough saccharine out of the ending to satisfy even Cindy the 
Bloodthirsty. Hm. Maybe if the MOM gets pretty much cleaned out or my 
prophesied end to the Wizard World occurs... what do you think, Cindy?)

Elizabeth
(Also, special thanks to oz_widgeon/Slon for trying to resuscitate my 
Lupin theory. :)