Snape - Dobby's motives

[christi0469]

No: HPFGUIDX 32654

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., Elizabeth Dalton <Elizabeth.Dalton at E...> 
wrote:
> 
> > From: "anakzaman" <anakzaman at y...>
> 
> > 
> > In GoF, when Voldemort summoned the Death Eaters, 6 were 
missing. 
> > Three were dead, one too cowardly to return (Karakoff I 
presume), on 
> > who has re-entered his service (Barty Crouch Jr.) and one who 
Voldy 
> > believed has left him forever. That one should be Snape.
> > 
> > Since Lucious Malfoy was there, he should be able to figure that 
out. 
> > So what is going to happen with Draco and Snape? Draco would 
tell his 
> > dad that Snape is a spy, or Lucious would tell his son that 
Snape is 
> > not faithful to Voldemort anymore. 
> > 
> 
> Actually, I think you may have just turned up the real reason for 
> Voldemort to have been so obscure at this point. He names the DEs 
who 
> are there, but not those who aren't. This always seemed a bit 
weird to 
> me, given that this is an evil secret society. Wouldn't it be more 
> appropriate to tell everyone the identities of the deserters?
> 
> Voldemort certainly thinks he knows who is who, and we think so 
too. 
> But the rest of the DEs might well assume that Snape is the 
faithful 
> follower who has already re-entered V.s service -- and Crouch 
isn't 
> around to gainsay this. Snape might not be able to spy directly in 
> Voldemort's view, but he might be able to get info off the rest of 
the 
> DEs if he can convince them that he's the one V. was praising.
> 

Please correct me if I read the scene incorrectly, but it seems that 
there were also many death eaters the Voldy did not name. Since they 
seemed to still be masked, the others could have assumed that Snape 
was simply not named. It also makes me wonder what criterion Voldy 
had for naming the ones he did? 

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "day782002" <elizabethlouiseday at h...> 
wrote:
> I have been wondering why Dobby initially approaches Harry in the 
> beginning of C of S. He has been intercepting his mail, then 
arrives 
> at Privet Drive to tell him not to return to school. Why? At this 
> stage Lucius has not given the diary to Ginny, so there is no 
> suggestion that the chamber will be opened, therefore Harry is in 
no 
> danger. If Lucius has been plotting to enable the diary to be used 
to 
> reopen the chamber then why not get Draco to do it? If he has 
cooked 
> an elaborate and somewhat unreliable scheme and been talking about 
it 
> at home, then this would suggest that Dobby would be aware of the 
> possible danger to Harry, but why should a dark wizard's house elf 
> want to protect Harry Potter?
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Liz xxx


Very interesting....my theory is that Lucius wanted to unleash the 
diary upon Hogwarts and was reluctant to involve his son in 
something that dangerous. Remember that Ginny just about died 
because of that diary. Harry's involvement was presumably just a 
happy accident, but Dobby's mysterious powers may have inabled him 
to forsee the posible outcome, especially as Tom Riddle would have 
been very interested in Harry(given Harry's fame, he would be likely 
mentioned in a student's diary). Lucius must have been very happy 
when the opprotunity to give it to Ginny arose, given her proximity 
to(and infatuation with) Harry. As to why Dobby would want to 
protect Harry, Dobby states that Harry greatly improved the station 
of house-elves when caused Voldy's downfall, which somewhat explains 
Dobby's attatchment to Harry. 


I think Dobby will be rather important in the upcoming books, or at 
least I hope so. He provided quite a bit of comic relief in CoS.

Christi