Love / Bagman / Hagrid / Erised / Religion
sing2wine
bonnie.abrams at cwine.com
Mon Jan 28 18:26:16 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 34207
Eileen writes:
JKR said very clearly that in the fourth
book the kids all fall for the *wrong* people.
This makes lots of sense - young (and old) people do this all the
time. That's why it will be all the more poignant when Hermione
realizes Ron is the best partner for her and Harry & Ginny finally
get together. By then they will all have matured, we will see Ginny
grow up and do something that shows her skill and ultimately the trio
will be part of the same wonderful family....
Jo writes:
Cindy, You are absolutely right about Bagman and all your excellent
points from GoF confirm that Bagman is just as much a DE as Crouch Jr
was. I fully expect that he will be a big player in book 5, and that
the "dumb jock" act is a cover for his true evil nature.
This would also fit well with JKR's propensity to surprise us with
the true "character" of her characters. In GoF, when Voldemort's
speaks of having someone at Hogwarts - might he actually mean Bagman,
not Crouch Jr.?
Ian Diddams writes:
Hagrid has now outlived his purpose in the story-line... he could
be a perfect candidate for the chop.
Unfortunately, I agree with Ian. I shall be as sad as Harry, Ron &
Hermione when this happens. And I hope all you Hagrid Haters feel
guilty when he dies a noble death and is proclaimed a hero. I also
hope he and Madame Maxime get to have a meaningful and passionate
relationship before it does happen....Maybe Madame Maxime could be
pregnant with Hagrid's child....
Re Aragog & the spiders, Ian also writes:
...this episode seems almost irrelevant... rather
like the deathday party and the mirror of erised.
I just wanted to mention that the mirror of erised has a lot of
purpose. Dumbledore warns Harry that many a student has wasted his
time before it (I must say I felt guilty as I thought of that since I
am writing from work and feel like this list has the power of the
mirror of erised over me...). So Harry learns to exert control over
his relationship with the mirror which contributes to saving his life
at the end of SS.
Too many names to mention source here but I've been fascinated by the
discussion of HP & religion. Where I work in Naples, N.Y. - there was
an issue brought up by a Wiccan woman who objected to her child
having to sing religious Christmas Carols in the public school. Most
of the community defended this practice as merely "American" - as
some list members described Christmas as just "British" at Hogwarts.
I just wanted to add another possible explanation: JKR may have
expected a harsh reaction to Witches & Wizardry from the
Fundamentalist Christian community and chose not to exacerbate it by
playing up the Pagan themes. (Like my fellow Jewish Ravenclaw,
Jenny, I think of Hermione as being an assimilated Jew and I'd still
like to see Kabbala taught at Hogwarts....)
Bonnie / sing2wine
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