What house was Peter Pettigrew in?/Neville Longbottom

shadowgirl_900 shadowgirl_900 at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 5 10:07:29 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 40801

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "EtonBuffy" <buffyeton at y...> wrote:
> I personally think PP (hee hee pee pee) was in Gryf. just for the 
> fact that children do not seem to mix socially outside their houses.  
> If he were in Slyth. he would have hero-worshiped some boys in there, 
> not Potter and Black.  

   It also would have been harder for all four of them to sneak out
and play at night.
  And for them to have all that time to work with Peter and teach him
to change into a rat, they would have had to be in the same house.
  And the above makes an even better point. Had Peter been in
Slytherin, he would have hung about with the likes of Snape and Lucius
Malfoy. And his supporting Voldemort wouldn't have been something he
had to hide. As well as the fact that he had no way of knowing that
Voldemort was someday going to barbeque the Potters, so why would a
boy who was being taught that the dark was good and Voldemort was
right even *want* to be "brothers" with James and Sirius?

 
> Does anyone else think that Neville may pull at Petigrew later?  In 
> PoA in Harry's dream after he learned what happened to PP he saw him 
> as someone who looked a lot like Neville.  Was that a bit of a look 
> into the future?


  You want to know what I think? If Peter gives him half a chance, I
think Neville will surprise everyone and turn Peter into toast.
Neville lost his parents to Voldemort and Peter supported and helped
the dark lord. And Neville, in spite of his seemingly overwhelmed
personality has shown he's got some fire hidden in there. (He tried to
stop Harry, Ron, and Hermione from going out in book one.) But in my,
admittedly uninformed opinion, I don't think it will come up again and
I also think if Harry dreamed it again, the boy would in no way look
like Neville.


> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., Leanne Daharja Veitch <daharja at b...> wrote:

> > It makes sense that he was in Gryffindor with the rest of MWPP, but 
> if
> > so Ron's statement in PS/SS that "there's never been a wizard who 
> went
> > bad who wasn't in Slytherin" (or something along those lines) is 
> incorrect.


  Keep in mind that no one, not even Dumbledore, knew that Peter *did*
go bad. Everyone thought he was the good little guy who died avenging
his friends. Heck, he even got the order of Merlin for that act of
bravery.
 :::furrows her brow:::  Come to think of it though, that was a very
inacurrate statement anyway. Everyone thought Sirius was evil and he
wasn't Slytherin. One is guessing though that he was the exception,
not the rule.



> > If PP was in Gryffindor, then it's clearly possible to trick the 
> sorting
> > hat so it sorts incorrectly (or maybe the sorting hat has other 
> motives
> > besides student welfare?).

   I will bet Peter was quite a challenge for the hat. To be in
Hufflepuff, he would have to be just and true and willing to work.
(I'm getting that from the book.) Peter was none of those. For
Ravenclaw, he would have to be wise, smart, and be good at learning.
Again, doesn't fit Peter. To be in Slytherin, he wouldn't have to be
evil, just ungodly talented and very ambitous. (Let's not think that
Slytherin is teaching a course on How To Get Into The Dark Arts. It's
still a part of Hogwarts. It is just the house where the really
ambitious go and when you have the drive to suceed at any cost, you
open the window to the dark side of things.) Peter had no talent and
no ambition. So, Slytherin is out. For Gryffindor, he'd have to be
brave and caring. Well, while it doesn't fit him, it fits him better
than any other. I think that hat put him there by process of
elimination. Of course, if he had actually taken on the traits of the
house he was in, he'd have never gone over to Voldemort.
   But I don't think the hat made a mistake. I don't think Peter was
evil while he was at Hogwarts. (This of course if just conjecture on
my part. We know nothing about him when he was there, but I can't see
the other marauders being fooled by someone who was evil incarnate.) I
think that when he was there, he wasn't the perfect Gryffindor as he
was weak, but he hadn't hooked up with Voldemort yet. He was
talentless, but he didn't turn to Voldemort until he got out of
school. I think that somewhere after graduation he realized that
James, Remus, and Sirius could never make him as good as they were,
even if they did love him. He knew his talent was almost non exsistant
and the only way he could be to their level was to sell his soul to
the only person who could give him power. And for some reason, he
found himself willing to do so.
  In my opinion, he wasn't evil then, just stupid.
   

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       Laura






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