[HPforGrownups] Imperius Curse

Edblanning at aol.com Edblanning at aol.com
Sun Jul 7 07:36:51 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 40876

Alora:
> I know that this has been discussed, so please please point me to 
> the correct thread, if there is one devoted to this.  
> 
> If Crouch! Moody is Barty Jr. and working for Voldemort (which we 
> know he is),  why does he teach Harry to throw off the Imperious 
> curse in DADA class?  I have always wondered about this.  Does he do 
> it because he is, as the DADA teacher, expected to do that? In my 
> eyes, he seems to really be excited about Harry being the only one 
> to be able to throw it off.  Why is that?  Any comments or 
> suggestions?  In GoF it says "Moody had insisted on putting Harry 
> through his paces four times in a row, until Harry could throw off 
> the curse entirely." (page 232, US)  Why did he do this?  Any 
> insight would be much appreciated...
> 
> 

Last time round, I suggested that it was to do with the fact that it is 
essential, for Crouch's plan to work, that Harry *wins* the Triwizard 
Tournament.

The castle is host to Durmstrang students whom, it is assumed, are taught the 
Dark Arts. It is host to Karkaroff, whom  Crouch knows was a DE, and who is 
clearly ambitious for his student to win. Crouch could justifiably assume 
that either Karkaroff or Viktor might attempt to put Harry under Imperius in 
order to make him throw the Tournament. Teaching him to resist it made his 
job of guiding Harry through it that much easier.

Alexander:
>  Actually, AFAIK it's written write in the book that it was
>Dumbledore who wanted students to become familiar with these
>spells. So it was not Barty's initiative, but Dumbledore's.
>Whatever Barty thought about it, he could do nothing without
>revealing himself.

I agree that it is in Dumbledore's style to want the students shown. It is 
canon at least that Crouch says this (and remember that he normally speaks 
the truth, even if the interpretation of what he says is not the surface 
meaning).
However, I think that he saw it as a heaven-sent opportunity to coach Harry 
so that he was more likely to win the tournament. 

BTW, putting on my LOON hat for a minute, could I point out that the curse is 
'Imperius' with a Latinate ending (no 'U')? 'Imperious', which seems to be 
widely used on the list at the moment and is undoubtedly of the same root, 
means something slightly different! ;-)

Eloise
hoping *she* hasn't let any typing errors (of which there were many) through.



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