Grandpa Riddle

[punkieshazam]

No: HPFGUIDX 41099

So much for lurking.

> On July 11 I wrote:
> >It was Voldemort's audacity at coming into someone else's house 
that 
> >bothered me. Then I realized that in addition to being Slytherin's 
> >heir on his mother's side, he was potentially Riddle's heir on his 
> >father's side. 
> Denise responded: 
> Okay this I can agree with. This would be a natural thing .. father 
relents and names his son in his will which could possibly have 
included his parents house. TR could be the "wealthy man" on pg 10, 
GoF 

The wealthy man you cite here was one of my clues. Besides,who has to 
relent? With the apparent size of the Riddle estate, it would not be 
difficult to retain counsel to break any existing will. This is what 
lawyers/barristers are for. There have been several notorious cases 
of this type in the US in the past few years. I am certain that most 
list members, no matter what their nationality, can come up with at 
least one case. 
> 
> >He married and had a family. 
> >I believe he changed his name and lived for a 
> >while, using that assumed name in the Riddle house. He essentially 
> >sold it to himself and under whatever name still owns it. 
> >The fortune made it possible, even natural, to travel on business. 
> >The business was not only managing the Riddle assets, but learning 
> >all the dark arts that he could. This was a deprived child who as 
a > >man had his revenge on the Muggle world and the WW which didn't 
> >appreciate him properly. 
> 
> Nope can't see that it would have happened. Dumbledore says that he 
disappeared after leaving school, sank into the dark arts, travelled 
far and wide, and had changed so much that no one recognised him. It 
would also mean that "someone" would have had to have been looking 
after his affairs. As an example, someone was paying Frank Bryce to 
stay on as gardener ... would that be something that Voldemort would 
do? Look after a broken down old man when he is surely bent on world 
domination and destruction? Now add the fact that Voldemort had been 
terrorising the WW for 11 years (1970-1981). This would mean that 
Lily was 10 when Voldie first emerged. Surely he wouldn't have 
been "rejoicing" when Lily got her letter... he would have been out 
encouraging his death eaters. 

How interesting. This passage was the one that convinced me that LV 
disappeared into the Muggle world, traveled far and wide, studied the 
dark arts and hired a firm (Arthur Anderson?) to manage his affairs, 
including paying Frank Bryce. Do you imagine that Prince Charles sits 
down once or twice a month to write checks to his staff? I don't 
think so. The man doesn't even carry money. Tony Soprano interacts 
with his wife and children between jobs for the Mob. As has been 
pointed out by others, a sociopath doesn't have to be a *good* father.
> >My theory makes TR change his name to Evans and he and his 
> >unsuspecting Muggle wife had two daughters, Lily and Petunia. 
> 
> Nope. Lily is muggle-born. On pg 233 CoS, TR says "Both half-
bloods, orphans, raised by muggles" If Lily was Voldies daughter then 
she wouldnt be muggle born.

In the Chamber, LV refers to Harry's Muggle mother. If Riddle, born 
half Muggle and raised by Muggles, posed as a Muggle and married a 
Muggle, then there you are--Lily and Petunia think that they are 
Muggles. 

> >When Lily tried to block his entrance to their house, he spoke 
very familiarly 
> >to her. Something like, "Lily, you foolish girl. Stand aside." At 
any 
> >rate I am convinced that Harry is related to Voldemort nee Tom 
Riddle 
> >somehow.
> 
> Yes he does seem familiar with her or he's giving her a break anyway
> "Not Harry, not Harry, please not Harry!"
> 
> "Stand aside, you silly girl... stand aside, now...."
> 
> "Not Harry, please no, take me, kill me instead --"
> 
> So yes there has to be a connection there somewhere but being his 
daughter I dont think it is.

Oh well, this matter may not be resolved until book 7. Until JKR 
proves me wrong, I will defend my theory. All this just reinforces 
the ongoing discussion on this list about the differences in 
interpretation and perception.

Punkie

Petunia is a squib!