werewolves - Bagshot - wizard chess - epilogue - good vs evil (again)

catlady_de_los_angeles catlady at wicca.net
Sat Jul 13 22:57:19 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 41172

Mere (Hi, Mere!)  wrote:

<< I'm a tad curious being the big Lupin fan that I am. >>

Me, too!

<< While we can only guess what he's been up to for a better part of
 a decade >>

Until and unless JKR gives us more info in future books, that's what 
fanfic is for. I think you would like CALL OF THE WILD by Wolfie 
Twins at http://www.schnoogle.com/authorLinks/WolfieTwins/ and 
Blaise's works at The Dark Arts on FictionAlley and especially THE 
FaRTHER SHORE at http://www.fanfiction.net/profile.php?userid=6432

<< but have any details of the Werewolf Code of Conduct ever been 
revealed in the any of the Potter books? >>

Alas, no.

<< Would he be able to get a license to apparate (I'm thinking a big 
NO here if the Ministry doesn't trust werewolves too much. Or 
connected to the floo network either...) Any other rights werewolves 
would be automatically denied? ... Also, the HP Lexicon mentioned 
Werewolf Support Services. What could they be? Anything akin to 
Social Security checks involved? Anyplace a werewolf could go to 
transform without being endangered or a threat to anyone else? Are
the services in place to protect werewolves from discrimination? (If 
so they don't seem to be working for the chronically unemployed Lupin 
very well.) If they are registered do any Ministry officials harass 
them? (Any police brutality assuming they knew an individual was a 
werewolf already? Not as easy to spot as skin color, obviously.) >>

I think the Ministry of Magic, for all its bureaucracy and all the 
laws it passes, doesn't actually DO very much. I never doubted that 
the department that gives Apparation licenses doesn't know or ask 
whether the applicant is a werewolf, a convicted criminal, an 
unregistered Animagus, whatever, and the same for other rights. By 
the same logic, I think they do nothing to protect anyone 
from unfair discrimination, even unfair discrimination by MoM 
official and enforcers. 

Werewolf Support Services is mentioned in FANTASTIC BEASTS, but with 
no descripti on of what it does. I fantasize that it gives small 
"welfare" payments so that unemployable werewolves have SOMETHING to 
live on. I'd like for it to provide Wolfsbane Potion to werewolves 
who can't afford to buy it!

Eileen wrote:

<< "History of Magic by Aldabert Waffling"  So who really wrote it? 
Waffling or Bagshot? >>

My SORCEROR'S STONE says, on the list of required books:
"A History of Magic by Bathilda Bagshot
Magical Theory by Adalbert Waffling"

Kanga's boy Pat Mahoney (not Roo?) wrote:

<<  How did Quirrell get past it? In the book, there is no suggestion 
that the board has already been played across (ie, no broken chess 
pieces etc), >>

More SORCEROR'S STONE quotes, this time suggesting that the chess 
figures being smashed was *only in the movie*:

"Ron also started teaching Harry wizard chess. This was exactly like 
Muggle chess except that the figures were alive, which made it a lot 
like directing troops in battle. Ron's set was very old and battered. 
Like everything else he owned, it had once belonged to someone else 
in his family -- in this case, his grandfather. However, old chessmen 
weren't a drawback at all. Ron knew them so well he never had trouble 
getting them to do what he wanted."

Above, normal Wizard Chess. Ron's pieces have survived many matches 
and are "battered" but not crumbled to bits.

"Their first real shock came when their other knight was taken. The 
white queen smashed him to the floor and dragged him off the board, 
where he lay quite still, facedown. ... Every time one of their men 
was lost, the white pieces showed no mercy. Soon there was a huddle 
of limp black players slumped along the wall."

Above, the giant chess set. The defeated pieces are described as 
'quite still' and 'limp', NOT broken into bits. I supposed they were 
merely knocked unconscious and would be able to play another match 
after they came to. Like boxers being KO'ed.

Darrin wrote:

<< JKR is doing an epilogue at the end of book 7, telling us where 
all the characters end up. Wanna bet Hermione ends up Headmistress at 
Hogwarts? >>

I bet no. I bet, if there is still a wizarding world, she ends up 
Minister of Magic. If there is not a wizarding world, she ends up 
JKR. Harry, in the UNLKELY event he survives past book seven, I would 
not be surprised if he became first, pro Quidditch star, then DADA 
professor and then Headmaster.

Some people asked: What epilogue? Here is the URL 
http://books.guardian.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4326559,00.html The quote is 
this really wraps everything, it's the epilogue and I basically say 
what happens to everyone after they leave school, those who survive - 
because there are deaths, more deaths coming...There's at least one 
death that's going to be horrible to write."

BBOY Beers wrote:

<< That's also the reason why good always wins in the end, because 
evil, eventually, is the architect of it's own doom. >>

First, my fic (on Schnoogle.com) has a character make a speech to 
Draco much like the one you quoted from your fic: "
         "why [do] they think immortality would benefit them (not 
that Voldemort ever intended to give it to them!) in a world of ruins 
and corpses, no fields tilled, no forests flourishing with wildlife, 
nothing to eat and no servants left alive?"
	"There'll be a great deal more forest, when there are no 
Muggles," Draco told him, "and plenty of land for wizarding farmers, 
who Charm their fields instead of pouring poison on them.  We'll go 
wherever we want and do whatever we want, not have to disguise 
ourselves in hideous Muggle clothing and conceal our magic so the 
poor Muggles don't have their pathetic little feelings hurt by 
reminders of their inability."
	"Draco.  Haven't you learned anything from me?  Without the 
rule of law, men will eat each other alive.  Your Death Eaters are as 
eager to kill wizards as Muggles, for any petty spite or faint hope 
of profit.  In such a time of lawlessness, even the most peaceful 
farmer will be too busy guarding his home and defending himself to 
Charm his fields - and stop thinking you'll be fine in Malfoy Manor 
with your family's followers to protect you!  You won't enjoy being 
too fearful to ever leave 

And I owe the 'rule of law' bit to Rebecca's fic...

Second:
"In the end" is like "in the long run". Lord Keynes said, of the 
axiom that things will work out right in the long run, "in the long 
run, we are all dead." If you are not viewing History from the 
viewpoint of an eternal God or immortal Flamel/Dumbledore, you are 
not seeing TO the End, only that Evil CAN triumph for centuries at a 
time, maybe millennia at a time, if people don't fight it. 

The famous Ecclesiastes 9:11 "I returned, and saw under the sun, that 
the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither 
yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor 
yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them 
all." Time, chance, and enemy action.





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