Dumbledore's Decision and the Explanation for it we have yet to see
aldrea279
chetah27 at hotmail.com
Mon Jul 15 19:49:21 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 41242
I asked:
> Did Dumbledore have any clue how horrible the Dursley's would be
when
> he left baby Harry there?
Richelle repled:
>>Yep, Dumbledore knew. McGonagall sat on the fence all day as a cat
and watched them. She tells Dumbledore "You can't mean the people
living here? Dumbledore--you can't. I've been watching them all day.
You couldn't find two people who are less like us. And they've got
this son--I saw him kicking his mother all the way up the street,
screaming for sweets. Harry Potter come and live here!">>
Telling Dumbledore that "They're boring Muggles! I saw their son
throw a fit today!" is quite a far cry from "No! Don't leave Harry
here, he'll be bullied by their fat son, doing slave labor for the
mother, and constantly cut down by the father! And once more, he
won't even know the truth about his poor parents until he's 11. If
you leave him he'll be absolutely miserable." I don't count what
McGonagall said as being enough of a warning.
James said:
>>Voldemort doesn't and can't understand love, or freindship, or even
loyalty that is not based on self interest - similarly I don't think
Dumbledore could understand the mentality of anyone as petty and mean
spirited as the Dursleys. >>
Then that makes Dumbledore no better than Voldemort, and I don't like
to think of him that way. If Dumbledore can't understand such a
mentality, then how did he/is he going to be able to deal with Voldie
and his DE's? He has to be able to predict atleast some of
Voldemort's moves or he'll just be stuck as a sitting duck. In fact,
in GoF he'd already figured out what one of Voldemort's moves would
be and a way to hinder that: Get the dementors out of Azkaban. Now,
we don't know for sure if that's what Voldemort does just yet(only
Book 5 will tell), but we do know it's on his To-Do List. So I think
Dumbledore can understand the petty and mean-spirited mentality.
Darrin:
>>Harry could have been raised in a loving, normal
home and still not known anything about wizards.>>
I agree, but it doesn't seem like there was the option for that.
Harry needed to be safe, and with his blood relations he was
safe. "Dumbledore invoked an ancient magic, to ensure the boy's
protection as long as he is in his relations's care."-Voldemort. He
had to go to his relatives so Dumbledore could work some of that Old
Magic that just so confuses Voldemort. And I like the theory that
the stronger the blood relation, the stronger the protection. Makes
sense, IMO. If that gets explained to us in the books, then I'll be
happy with that. Harry had to go to the Dursleys because that's the
only way for him to be safe from Voldemort/Evil DE's. Alright,
that's good enough for me, the boy does need to be kept alive. And
Voldemort said "not even I can" not "not even I could"..which means
he still -can't-, correct? So no, doen't seem like Harry would be
safer with the Grangers or the Weaselys just yet.
Tim:
>>Dumbledore and McGonagall must have panicked that Privet Drive was
not as safe as they thought: he's protected from he-who-must-not-be-
named there, but not from dementors (Voldemort's natural allies GoF
p 564).>>
I don't know, you'd think the Ministry keeps tabs on them, they do
have a Department for the Regulation and Control of Magical Creatures
(or something like that), don't they? Seeing how easily they can
spot any and all charms, spells, magic of any kind that underage
wizards might try, I'd think they'd be able to spot a rogue dementor
wandering around Privet Drive.
Richelle:
>>Lupin told Harry to pick
ONE memory and focus on it. Maybe having fewer to choose from even
helped
him to focus more clearly. It would help explain why he was able to
master
the Patronus Charm when some fully trained wizards have trouble with
it.>>
Well, if The Plan was to keep Harry miserable his whole life *just*
to ellliminate one, possible, maybe danger for him...well, that's
just not a very good plan. And it certainly doesn't seem like
Dumbledore is trying to keep Harry miserable at Hogwarts: he lets him
play Quidditch(first years aren't normally allowed, and I'm sure
Dumbledore could have stepped in if he'd wanted to), he gives him his
father's Invisibility Cloak, etc. I doubt he'd try to keep Harry
from being happy just to keep the dementors off of him. And probably
the reason fully trained wizards can't master it is because it takes
alot of will power- something we know Harry has, what with him being
able to resist Imperius and all.
Richelle:
>>A great great grandfather or great great
uncle or something would be a blood relative, but many people
referring to
family are looking at immediate family (grandparents, aunts,
uncles).>>
I like the theory that says the closer they are related, the better
the spell that protects Harry works. Aunt and cousin were probably
the closest Dumbledore could get. But that's going on the fact that
James doesn't have any siblings, which we don't know for sure, I
don't think.
~Aldrea, who wants to see the Durlseys embarassed publically
somehow...
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