[HPforGrownups] Re: Harry and Hermione (WAS Harry and Women)

yr awen yrawen at ontheqt.org
Fri Jul 19 02:20:40 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 41409

Frankie wrote:

>I agree-- the kids are... kids. Besides, wasn't the Virgin/Whore
>theory debunked?

I think so :-) At least, on this list it was, although I would imagine it depends who you talk to. With relation to Harry and girls, though, I honestly can't see him flipping through either Freud or medieval exegesis and saying, "Well, Hermione is so obviously virginal, along the lines of Pallas Athena, goddess of wisdom who is eternally chaste, while Fleur is the embodiment of Venus -- that is to say, the Whore of Babylon..."

snip from another post (Darrin, I think? I'm terribly sorry:
> Witness the Percy/Penelope relationship. Percy, a 16-year-old, is 
> upset because he is caught KISSING his girlfriend. How Victorian can 
> you get???

Well, this *is* Percy we're talking about as well, and kissing someone on the sly in a classroom is definitely not expected decorum in any day or age, even now, and with Percy being a stickler for rules and a prefect and all... that would be a compromising situation to say the least. At my relatively permissive high school, anyone caught kissing anyone anywhere was in big trouble (I never did this myself) and I would imagine that's the standard at most places. Additionally, as Frankie pointed out, there's Fred and George to worry about.

Back to Frankie:
>Gents, I'm gonna let y'all in on a little secret. Women go to the
bathroom in groups to talk about you.

I was waiting for someone to say that :-)

Frankie again:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Oh LORD. At fourteen, my best friend would have been tied to that
statue in the lake, too. I want no part of any discussion speculating
why Fleur had to rescue her sister, if people are thinking that way.
These are KIDS we're talking about, folks!!<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Well, I'm sure people know better than to equate homoeroticism with the rescue of one's sister (and if they don't... well, there's no help for them). I would also imagine that this says a lot about Fleur, that the most important person in her life is her little sister -- not a Beauxbatons friend or a boyfriend, but her *sister*. Her terror when she got out of the water after the time ran out was really quite startling and refreshing, when the previous narration has her set up as the school's number one crush.

>>>>>>>>>>>>Oh, to be a fly on the wall of the Hogwarts Staff Room... you
can't shut a mixed group of adults in a remote castle for the better
part of a year without SOME intrigue.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

There's a songfilk in that, I'm fairly sure :-0

>>>>>>>>>>>>>At my urban, 1,500 student senior high school (ages
14-17) there was a bit of student folklore that said "If a virgin ever
graduates, the watertower will collapse and you don't want anyone to
drown, do you?" I bet Slytherin house would have a similar story... )<<<<<<<<<<<<

Wow! And my school just cemented a beer keg to the front walk of the school the night before graduation (sigh)

HF.


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