Fw: [HPforGrownups] Sirius's house (was Re: More emotional baggage for Snape)

rvotaw at i-55.com rvotaw at i-55.com
Thu Jul 25 14:01:46 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 41697

> > Let me try to enlighten you.  The interview usually cited is the
> one where
SK writes:

> > Jo responds to a question that James was a Chaser.  The questioner
> assumed
> > he played on the Gryffindor team, but Jo didn't confirm or correct
> that
> > assumption.  So she only half answers the question, leaving us to
> wonder
> > whether she was being efficient or just coy.
> >

Then Darrin responds:

> Again, I say that the answer is much less ambigious than people
> looking for clues while waiting for OoP to come out want to make it.
> The analogy I continually use is if someone who had never seen
> basketball asks: "What position did Michael Jordan play for the
> Bulls?"
>
> The answer is "shooting guard."

True.  But Michael Jordan didn't always play for the Bulls.  And he doesn't 
now.  Perhaps James Potter didn't always play for Gryffindor.  He could've 
played Seeker for Slytherin.  The only substantial evidence for him playing 
Seeker is from the movie, not book, and the only thing about Chaser is from JKR 
interview.  It's possible that he played for both teams if he was resorted, 
perhaps different positions on each.

Richelle
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Richelle R. Votaw
1st grade teacher
Kentwood Elementary
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----- Original Message -----
From: darrin_burnett <bard7696 at aol.com>
To: <HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:41 AM
Subject: [HPforGrownups] Sirius's house (was Re: More emotional baggage for
Snape)


> SK wrote:
>
> > Darrin writes:
> >
> > "James and Lily in Gryffindor, based on JKR."
> >
> > Richelle Votaw responds:
> >
> > "Does anyone know where the quote is from that JKR said James was in
> > Gryffindor?  I found the quote about Lily being in Gryffindor in
> the October
> > 2000 Scholastic interview, but can't find the one about James."
> >
> > Let me try to enlighten you.  The interview usually cited is the
> one where
> > Jo responds to a question that James was a Chaser.  The questioner
> assumed
> > he played on the Gryffindor team, but Jo didn't confirm or correct
> that
> > assumption.  So she only half answers the question, leaving us to
> wonder
> > whether she was being efficient or just coy.
> >
>
>
> Again, I say that the answer is much less ambigious than people
> looking for clues while waiting for OoP to come out want to make it.
> The analogy I continually use is if someone who had never seen
> basketball asks: "What position did Michael Jordan play for the
> Bulls?"
>
> The answer is "shooting guard."
>
> This reads to me the same thing here. I allow it's not 100 percent,
> but count me in on the efficient side of this argument.
>
>
> > Darrin assumes:
> >
> > "Snape's hatred of them indicates they weren't Slytherin."
> >
> > Richelle responds:
> >
> > "What if they were all in the same house?  And Snape was more of
> a "true
> > Slytherin" as in being interested in dark arts, etc.  And thus they
> didn't
> > like him.  I'm trying to find a way for someone good to have been in
> > Slytherin, or else why don't they mark all Slytherins as "possible
> future
> > traitor."
> >
> > IMHO,  the book makes no official charge that Slytherans are bad,
> this is
> > just one of Harry's prejudices.  I'm still sitting back waiting for
> the good
> > Slytheran to stand up and be noticed.  Of course, Harry would
> probably
> > assume evil intent.
> >
>
>
> Why wouldn't Harry assume nastiness? No Slytherin YET has shown a
> speck of decency. It's not just Draco and Riddle. Crabbe and Goyle
> are thugs. Pansy is catty to the extreme. Millicent is a bully and
> Marcus Flint cheats at Quidditch. Granted, little of this is Azkaban-
> worthy stuff, but in four books, two 40-page supplements and a movie,
> we haven't had one decent Slytherin.
>
> Even Snape could hardly be called a good person. He's just someone
> who's chosen the right side.
>
> So, if some Slytherin wants to change the perceptions of fellow
> students (It's not just Harry -- most of the rest of the Hogwarts
> students want to see Slytherin fail) then he or she needs to step
> forward.
>
> Because I do agree that there has to be some good to the Slytherins,
> or else why would Hogwarts put up with them? Remember, Salazar bailed
> after only a couple of years, yet the other three continued to sort
> kids into his house, maintained it as an equal and took pains to make
> sure the Sorting Hat would continue looking for his kind of student.
> Barring some magical covenant where they literally can't get out of
> it, it seems Helga, Godric and Rowena are keeping Salazar around for
> some reason.
>
> And I don't see where any of this refutes my "assumption" that Snape
> and Sirius and Lupin were probably not in the same house.
>
> At least, didn't end up in the same house ;)
>
> Darrin
> -- Maybe there was once a fifth house, named after the greatest
> wizard of his age, who had the logo of a mighty elephant. You know
> who I mean... DUDLEY DURSLEY! And our Dudders is the reincarnation of
> old DD.
>
> OK, Darrin, bedtime.
>
>
>
>
>
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