Maybe Hagrid is the DISLOYAL person (who will betray Dumbledore)

cindysphynx cindysphynx at comcast.net
Sat Jun 1 23:29:57 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 39304

I wrote:
  
 > 5.  Hagrid.  I don't know how JKR would sell this one.  JKR has 
 > never had Hagrid even *hint* that he might suddenly become 
>disloyal to Dumbledore.


Jenny scolded:

 
> Cindy, Cindy, Cindy.  How could you turn on me now?  You mean you 
> *don't* think Hagrid may be the one to betray Dumbledore?  And you 
> claim to be anti-Hagrid?  

Oh, dear.  It has come to this.  My anti-Hagrid credentials are 
being questioned right out in the open like this.  This is so sad.

Fear not, Jenny!  I am still anti-Hagrid, and I still think he will 
be pushing up Devil's Snare by the end of OoP.  No, we're still in 
this anti-Hagrid thing together.  And the last time I checked, there 
weren't any others with anti-Hagrid sentiments, so it's just you and 
me, kid.  ;-)

I think Hagrid will die in some fashion other than betraying 
Dumbledore, though.  Heck, I think it is more likely that Hagrid 
will die *defending* Dumbledore than betraying him.  

In fact, since no one was taken with the idea that Norbert will 
carry Hagrid off to be eaten alive on a mountaintop, I'll go with 
another scenario.  Ever-So-Evil Real Moody will be the perp, see.  
Evil Real Moody will be sneaking up on Dumbledore, about to betray 
him.  Hagrid will catch on and will take an AK curse with 
Dumbledore's name on it.  (Hmmm, I wonder if it is possible to be 
killed by an AK curse intended for someone else?)

Canon?  Oh, yeah.  There's definitely something going on between 
Moody and Hagrid.  

In GoF, Moody and Hagrid are at the Three Broomsticks.  Why, 
though?  JKR didn't establish any real relationship between Moody 
and Hagrid to explain why they would go out for drinks, did she?  
After all, Hagrid is half-giant, and "loads [of giants] got 
themselves killed by Aurors."  Doesn't it seem likely that Moody 
(that is, Crouch Jr. operating on information supplied by Real 
Moody) would be wary of pursuing a relationship with Hagrid, as 
Crouch Jr. surely must know about the conflict between giants and 
Aurors?  And isn't it likely that Hagrid would avoid contact with 
Moody, perhaps to avoid having his half-giant status revealed?  That 
scene always struck me as a little odd, to tell you the truth.

Jenny:

>Well, I think Hagrid's annoyingly blind loyalty is exactly what 
>could cause problems.  I see a possible 
> scenario with Hagird coming back in OoP after a wonderful summer 
>with the giants, thinking differently about the wizard world...  I 
>see a possible resentment of the way he was treated at Hogwarts, 
>and a possible turn of loyalty towards his newfound friends... and 
>mom.  

I agree that Hagrid's blind loyalty will surely come into play, but 
it is hard to imagine how this might happen.  I can see Hagrid 
struggling with loyalty to his giantess mother and Dumbledore, but 
it is hard to imagine where JKR might go with this.

Cindy (who thinks Dumbledore's team might actually be stronger 
without Hagrid)





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