bathrooms - WOLVES - VOLDEMORT - MQACGONAGALL

catlady_de_los_angeles catlady at wicca.net
Sun Jun 9 10:36:44 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 39622

Marcus wrote:

> Why is the entrance to a 1000+ year-old chamber hidden behind a
> modern bathroom fixture?

I suspect that the wizard folk have had 'modern' indoor plumbing and 
flush toilets since before Atlantis sank, and Minoan, Roman, and 
modern plumbing are all attempts by Muggles to achieve the comfort 
and convenience that they observed in some wizarding home where they 
had been guests.

Grey Wolf wrote:

> his mind preocupied in such un-wolf-like thoughts

i.e. exams! I hope you aced them all!

LUPIN*******************************

Aldrea wrote:

> But, from what canon says, I don't believe Lupin and the moon have
> a "Cinderella" sort of relationship, but a "Swan Princess" one does
> seem only slightly more 

I gather that 'a Cinderella" sort of relationship' means Lupin 
transforming at the stroke of midnight, but what is a "Swan 
Princess" one? 

> -the week preceding the full moon- Does this mean that he has to 
> take the potion for a full week before the full moon, and then on
> the night of the full moon he's perfectly harmless? (snip) Well, it
> certainly means that he does have to take the potion more than once
> a month. 

When Harry saw Snape bring the goblet to Lupin: "I made an entire 
cauldronful," Snape continued. "If you need more." 
"I should probably take some again tomorrow. Thanks very much, 
Severus."
In the Shrieking Shack: "As long as I take it in the week, preceding 
the full moon, I keep my mind when I transform". 

To me, it is not at all clear from the text how much Wolfsbane Potion 
he has to take how often each month. "in the week preceeding the full 
moon" could mean anything from one dose any time during any day of 
that week (in which case he should not have left it until the evening 
of the last day of that week in the climactic chapter) to a dose 
every hour of the day and night of each day of that week. I think, if 
he had to take doses on a rigid schedule, Snape would know about the 
schedule and it wouldn't have made sense for him to say "In case you 
need more". However, if one dose were enough, why would Lupin say "I 
probably should take some again tomorrow"? 

Pippin wrote:

> How Lupin would know that, if he was out of his mind that night,
> we aren't told.

Just because he is consumed with an uncontrollable compulsion during 
the night doesn't mean that he can't remember afterwards what he did 
during the night, even what he did during the compulsion. 

Amelia Goldfeesh wrote:

>  "Janus". The two-faced god. Two-faced as in *deceiving*.

When last I was in FictionAlleyPark (two weeks ago? When I have time 
to go on-line, I come here first, leaving me no time to go there), I 
wandered into a thread quite seriously speculating on Remus's middle 
name. I was not the only Lupin-lover who thought that Janus would 
suit him well, except that 'Remus Janus Lupin' doesn't sound at all 
good (I therefore suggested Januarius): he is LITERALLY two-faced: 
man face and wolf face, and he feels himself to be figuratively 
two-faced, for having concealed all that Animagery from Dumbledore.

Carrie-Ann wrote:

> Does this mean that there is a cure for Lupin?

In post #33815, I wrote: There was a discussion of why that Homorphus 
Charm was not a cure for Lupin. I suggested that its side-effects 
include damaging the recipient's brain to the point where he does not 
remember and can never again learn how to speak, nor even toilet- 
training. Someone else suggested that it only worked within a year or 
two after the werewolf was first infected, and it had been discovered 
too late for Lupin. I was finally persauded by another suggestion: 
that it only turns the werewolf human for one minute. That is long 
enough to identify him, especially in a village where everyone knows 
everyone. Once he has been identified, his neighbors can tie him up 
before nightfall of each Full Moon, or more likely they will kill him 
in daylight of New Moon when he has no special powers to defend 
himself with.

VOLDEMORT************

Bookloving Kat wrote:

> Apologies for being pedantic, but canon seems to suggest that 
> Voldemort wasn't always in Albania: "What interests *me* the most,"
> said Dumbledore gently, "is how Lord Voldemort managed to enchant
> Ginny when my sources tell me he is currently in hiding in the 
> forests of Albania." 

I think "currently" in Albania is accurate even if he had been there 
for a hundred years and was going to stay a hundred more, despite the 
connotation of temporariness. For a 150 year old, having been there 
for 13 years might seem temporary. Anyway, Voldemort left his hiding 
place and came to Hogwarts with Quirrel in Book 1, and then fled to a 
hiding place, whether the same or different, so even if he hid in 
Albania both before and after Book 1, he wasn't there for 13 years 
continuously. 

Pippin wrote:

> Lupin could hardly tend to baby Voldie's needs in wolf form,

I believe that Voldemort was hiding in Albania (or wherever: see 
above) in the form of a mist, with no body at all. I believe he 
didn't get the hideous-baby body until he had Wormtail and Bertha to 
assist him. I am inclined to believe (I didn't think up this idea 
myself) that poor Bertha was not only torture-victim and information- 
source, but also surrogate-mother for Voldemort's hideous-baby form. 
It just occured to me this minute that Wormtail and Voldemort didn't 
have a whole lot of time between when Wormtail fled the Shrieking 
Shack in June... how long does it take a rat to travel from Scotland 
to Albania? ... and capturing Bertha and everything they did with her 
was completed by the time they were in the Riddle House in ... 
mid-July?

MACGONAGALL************

Elkins wrote:

> tail-twitching and eye-narrowing is absolutely *not* how cats 
> express pleasure at seeing someone they have been waiting all
> day to have a nice chat with. 

JKR has said that she dislikes cats (someone has already exactly 
quoted that chat Q&A), so she probably glares hostilely at cats, 
who respond by not showing her how they behave with their *friends*.

Porphyria wrote:

> If I were a cat hater (snip) and working entirely for herself. 
> Herself and Tom.

Tom Cat! I have often complained that in the Potterverse, we have 
Tom and Harry, but where is Dick, but I had not connected Tom to cats. 

Eloise wrote:

>  Now I don't think that McGonagall can have been (or at least,
> she'd have been at the top of the school when Riddle started)

October 16, 2000 is the date (according to The Goat Pen -- and I 
*will* check your links, Mike, when I get a chance) of the Scholastic 
on-line chat in which she said that MacGonagall is 'a sprightly 70'. 
I brood about whether she meant 'is' in 2000, when the interview was 
given, in GoF (1994-5 school year), or in Book 1 (1991-2 school year). 

To me, if MacGonagall was 70 in GoF, she would have been around two 
years ahead of TMR, not six years ahead. And if she was 70 in 2000, 
she would have been at the bottom of the school when TMR was at the 
top. I would like to finagle my numbers so that she was in the SAME 
year...






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