Voldemorts Resurrection WAS The Spying Game and the Shrieking Shack

grey_wolf_c greywolf1 at jazzfree.com
Wed Jun 12 09:22:02 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 39728

Marina wrote:
> That doesn't make sense to me.  If Dumbledore could engineer it so
> that Voldemort had only one resurrection option left, then why not
> take that final step and remove the last option, too?  That would
> leave Voldemort with no resurrection options at all and solve
> everybody's problems.  (Well, except Voldemort's, obviously.)

See your own #1 condition: Dumbledore couldn't risk having Voldemort 
use another resurrection option. We know from PS that there are many 
avilable. They must difere in quality, easiness, speed, amount of power 
restored and a few other variables, but they could all restore a dying 
man's body. Dumbledore wanted V to use this particular one because 
there is a major flaw in it, albeit that flaw is only known to the 
greatest experts in the field of potions, i.e. Snape (I say this 
because I know you won't dare discuss something that puts Snape so 
high). Indeed, the "blood of the enemy, forcefully taken" is the 
greatest error in the formula: that blood will work against the user of 
the potion, and is the weak link that wil allow Dumbledore to insert 
the lever and shove. Please note that Harry is not mentioned at all. 
You'll see why in a moment.
 
> Instead, Dumbledore allows Voldemort to come back, betting that *all*
> of the following circumstances will be true:
> 
> 1. Voldemort won't discover some other method Dumbledore doesn't know
> about.

Dumbledore is forcefully seeking this one: he leaves a big, great exit 
door with neon-pink flashing lights on top saying "Follow me", so he 
doesn't notice the small trapdoor under his feet wich would make him 
unstopable.

> 2. Voldemort will not use some enemy other than Harry.

I don't know why Harry is best option, although it looks like it is, 
but for my version, Harry is unecessary: any enemy's blood will do
 
> 3. Voldemort will acquire "blood of the enemy" by decorously nicking
> Harry's arm rather than, say, slicing open his jugular.
> 
> 4. Voldemort won't kill Harry as soon as the resurrection ritual is
> complete.
> 
> 5. Voldemort, Wormtail, and all other assembled DEs will fail to kill
> Harry.
> 
> 6. Harry will have a Portkey or some other escape device handy to
> help him get away.

This four conditions get down to "Harry will survive", which (in my 
theory, derived from Pip's) gets a neat True/False answer: Harry isn't 
needed for Dumbledore's plan to defeat Voldemort. If he's killed, 
more's the pity, but it's a sacrifice to be done to defeat Voldemort. 
This definetely agrees with Dumbledore the Grey figure.

I'm not sure, however, that the fact that Harry was portkeyed when he 
was was orchestrated by Dumbledore: I think it took him by surprise, 
since normally he prefers to have something more useful to defend him 
than Cedric "spare" Diggory. In that case, maybe Dumbledore was plain 
unlucky, and his whole great plan stood in the brink of disaster for a 
while, but I think it's more probable that he's not depending only on 
Harry to win, but has a few other options available if Harry manages to 
get himself killed in one of those little shows in May/June.
 
> 7. After all that rigamarole, the resulting weakness in Voldemort
> will actually be enough to ensure his defeat.

That is, in fact, the basis of the plan: Dumbledore searched for a 
resurrection form that would ensure Voldemort's defeat, since it would 
the only way to have Voldy play right into his hands. Years back, he 
discussed it with Snape (and maybe a few others), and Snape provided 
the perfect formula (the one used by Voldemort). The next thing was, of 
course, dispose of all other ways of resurrection so V had only one 
option available. Since that is probably impossible, Dumbledore worked 
on making it the easiest of the best options. Since the easiest option 
was the Philosopher's Stone, he first hid it and then destroyed it 
(here we see the first sacrifice of the fight: Flammel, who had eons of 
life still in front of him). Then, he continued to cut his other 
options one by one, but always leaving the Riddle home free (Dumbledore 
is the owner of the house "for financilal purposes").

> The number of random variables here is just staggering, and if any
> one of the above items goes wrong (and we still have no guarantee on 
> #7), the WW is once against stuck with a sadistic invincible Dark
> Lord wreaking havoc.  If that's Dumbledore's idea of "having control
> over circumstances," then I don't think "gray" is the right color for 
> him. I'm not sure what the color for total idiocy is, but that's what
> I'd be painting him.

If you look at it the way I have exposed it, you'll see that, in fact, 
there is only one variable: Voldemort deciding to use another formula, 
and even that has been controlled by Dumbledore since the very first 
book. I have, of course, based my supositions on the fact that 
Dumbledore made sure that the formula V used would assure #7, which 
seems like a safe bet.

> Marina (who wishes to make it clear that her problems with this
> theory do not in any way interfere with her belief in 
> Competent!Snape)

Hope that helps,

Grey Wolf, who doesn't believe in Evil!Dumbledore, but does believe in 
Dumbledore the Grey, since it pairs well with his own name and with the 
other greatest magician of fantasy books: Gandalf the Grey.






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