The Sorting of Neville Longbottom
jtdogberry
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Tue Jun 18 10:54:43 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 40010
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "darrin_burnett" <bard7696 at a...> wrote:
>
> > Elkins said:
> >
> > >>In fact, if I were Helga, I think that I would have tried to
> foist
> > Neville off on somebody else. *Anybody* else. Probably
> > Godric. 'Cause you know, the thing about those warrior types with
> the great big swords is that they can never resist a *challenge.*
> They just love lost causes. And they're suckers for orphans and
> widows, too. And puppy dogs. And the lame and the halt. They're
> just big old *softies,* is what they are. Sentimental. And
> verrrrrry easy to manipulate.
> >
> > Which is pretty much exactly what I think happened inside that
> > Sorting Hat.<<
> >
I object!!!! *Raise battle axe in the air defensively*
> And Hana wrote:
I think though, that there must be some secondary or
> undeveloped traits in Neville that helped the Sorting Hat choose
> Gryffindor.
> >
> > The Gryffindor traits from PS/SS and GOF:
> >
> > brave at heart
> > daring
> > nerve
> > chivalry
> > bold
> > (and intelligent since Godric made the Sorting Hat)
> >
> > He ~has~ shown courage in helping to fight Malfoy, Crabbe, and
> Goyle in PS/SS, as well as when he stands up to the Trio so bravery
> is there, deciding to fight might be considered daring (for him)
and
> show some nerve since he's not really the picture of fighting
> strength.
To add, Neville does have guts!! Remember when he tried to find Harry
and Herminone in the dark at 1am to warn them.
> And Darren Wrote:
> Brave and bold? Neville actually asked Hermione to the Yule Ball
AND
> has scored a date with Ginny before Harry and Ron even approached a
> girl. Harry basically lucked out with the last girl on his list and
> was able to get her to bring his sister along for Ron.
Again, can I add for bold and nerves, hands up who else would admit
to a very angry Mcgonagall, in front of your whole house that it was
your fault Black got in! It is likly, that if Neville kept quite, he
might have got away with it.
>
> Nurturing to develop? We've got three cited examples of canon (and
a
> fourth implied if you count what is probably incredible positive
> reinforcement from Sprout) of professors going out of their way to
> help Neville.
>
> Lupin: Pointedly chooses Neville to tackle the boggart first, AFTER
> Snape warns him.
And looking closely at that scene, Neville is determind to show Lupin
what he can really do!!!
> Moody/Crouch: Takes Neville aside and builds his confidence up.
> (Crouch has ulterior motives to be sure -- he wanted Neville to
have
> the solution to the second task -- BUT from Neville's point of
view,
> it's a teacher building him up.)
I would like to know, how Neville responded to "Moody's" real
idenity. It worries me a little.
> And of course, Dumbledore himself: D-Dore knew he just needed to
give
> Gryffindor 170 points to beat Slytherin for the House Cup is SS/PS.
> He could have divided it up any way and in any order possible. He
> chose to have Neville put Gryffindor over the top.
I agree, which was needed after having everyone ignoring him for
losing those points earlier!!!
> Neville is being groomed for something. By the time this series is
> over, the names of people the wizards - and Muggles -- will have to
> thank for their continued existence will include Neville Longbottom.
Er, I kinda like the idea of Neville being the unspoken hero but it
would be nice.
Dogberry
(who thinks that if Neville were an animagus, he would be a bear)
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