Young Snape / Riddle and Lucius / the Map / Weasels / Ugly Baby Voldie
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Tue Jun 18 13:19:38 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 40014
Joe:
> << Do we have any estimate on when the elder Malfoy was in
Hogwarts? I have this pet idea (unsupported by canon as far as
I know), that he was there around the same time as Arthur and
Molly.
Rita:
> Their fist-fight in Flourish & Blotts and their jibes in the Top Box
> certainly give that impression. However, there is what seems
to me to
> be evidence that Arthur & Molly, Minerva, and Tom Riddle were
all at Hogwarts at more or less the same time. Arthur & Molly
were at Hogwarts together because of Molly's reminiscence of
coming back late to Gryffindor Tower after a date with Arthur.
Arthur & Molly were at Hogwarts at least a little before the CoS
flashback events, as Molly told anecdotes of Hagrid's
predecessor as gamekeeper, a man named Ogg.
>
But this is contradicted by Draco's revelation that the first
opening of the Chamber of Secrets was before Lucius' time.
Probably Hagrid only began training as a gamekeeper at the age
of thirteen. When Harry imagines what would become of him if
he were expelled, he thinks of following Hagrid around
the grounds carrying his bag.
The way Hagrid wades into the fight between Lucius and Arthur,
pulling them apart, suggests to me that he is the older and
remembers breaking up fights between them at Hogwarts. Ogg
could have stayed on the job as Sr. Gamekeeper for a long time
after Hagrid grew up. Riddle would have been gone by that time.
If the Weasleys had been students at Hogwarts when Riddle
was there, I think we would have seen them react to the mention
of his name at the end of CoS. Would they have forgotten such a
dynamic, charismatic individual, who mysteriously disappeared
after he left school?
Pippin
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