Young Snape / Riddle and Lucius / the Map / Weasels / Ugly Baby Voldie

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Tue Jun 18 13:19:38 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 40014

Joe:
> << Do we have any estimate on when the elder Malfoy was in 
Hogwarts?  I have this pet idea (unsupported by canon as far as 
I know), that he  was there around the same time as Arthur and 
Molly. 

Rita:
> Their fist-fight in Flourish & Blotts and their jibes in the Top Box 
> certainly give that impression. However, there is what seems 
to me to 
> be evidence that Arthur & Molly, Minerva, and Tom Riddle were 
all at  Hogwarts at more or less the same time. Arthur & Molly 
were at  Hogwarts together because of Molly's reminiscence of 
coming back late  to Gryffindor Tower after a date with Arthur. 
Arthur & Molly were at Hogwarts at least a little before the CoS 
flashback events, as Molly  told anecdotes of Hagrid's 
predecessor as gamekeeper, a man named Ogg. 
> 

But this is contradicted by Draco's revelation that the first 
opening of the Chamber of Secrets was before Lucius' time.  
Probably Hagrid only began training as a gamekeeper at the age 
of thirteen. When Harry  imagines what would become of him if 
he were expelled,  he thinks of following Hagrid around 
the grounds carrying his bag. 

The way Hagrid wades into the fight between Lucius and Arthur, 
pulling them apart, suggests to me that he is the older and 
remembers breaking up fights between them at Hogwarts.  Ogg 
could have stayed on the job as Sr. Gamekeeper for a long time 
after Hagrid grew up. Riddle would have been gone by that time.

If the Weasleys had been students at Hogwarts when Riddle 
was there, I think we would have seen them react to the mention 
of his name at the end of CoS.  Would they have forgotten such a 
dynamic, charismatic individual, who mysteriously disappeared 
after he left school?

Pippin





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