Young Snape / Riddle and Lucius / the Map / Weasels / Ugly Baby Voldie

joeblackish joeblackish at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 18 20:59:19 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 40035

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> wrote:

> Rita:
> Arthur & Molly were at Hogwarts at least a little before the CoS 
> flashback events, as Molly  told anecdotes of Hagrid's 
> predecessor as gamekeeper, a man named Ogg. 
> > 
Pippin:
> But this is contradicted by Draco's revelation that the first 
> opening of the Chamber of Secrets was before Lucius' time.  
> Probably Hagrid only began training as a gamekeeper at the 
age 
> of thirteen. When Harry  imagines what would become of him if 
> he were expelled,  he thinks of following Hagrid around 
> the grounds carrying his bag. 
> 

Another explanation for the Weasley/Ogg timing dilemma - 

Hagrid was expelled, and was allowed to stay on as *
gamekeeper*.

Hagrid's title now is kepper of game and grounds at Hogwarts.

Mrs. Weasley, I believe, tells the kids about Ogg, the *
groundskeeper* before Hagrid.

Perhaps, upon Hagrid's expulsion, Dumbledore suggested the 
creation of a new position as gamekeeper, since Ogg maybe 
wasn't quite so good with the animals. Then when Ogg retired, 
Hagrid simply assumed his duties.

I think Mr. & Mrs. Weasley, and Lucious Malfoy, are all noticably 
younger than Voldemort.  Lucious has told Draco that the 
Chamber opening was before his time, and the Weasleys don't 
give any indication that they were around for it before either.

Joe, who really should be working now.





















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