Immortal vapour? MAGIC DISHWASHER

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 40030

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "grey_wolf_c" <greywolf1 at j...> wrote:
> > Eloise wrote: 
> > That's a good point. I've always believed the Voldemort is 
immortal  whilst disembodied theory (mostly because Hagrid 
and Sirius do). So why was Voldemort in hiding? 

Grey Wolf:
> Since this comes into the MAGIC DISHWASHER theme, I'll give 
you an  answer that fits it. It's altoghether possible that while in 
vapur  form, although he couldn't be destroyed, he was too 
debilitated to  prevent one of his DEs from using some dark 
magic to reduce him to a  mere second-in-command, or even 
worse. Since V wants to be the boss, he had to wait until an 
easily manipulable DE came to help him.

<snip>
> Ah! That's were the cunning of Dumbledore and MAGIC 
DISHWASHER comes 
> in: after the PS was destroyed, Voldemort run oput of easy 
options. It  seems that the stone wuld have goven his Vapour 
form power, <<

What Voldemort says, in PS/SS is that once he has the Elixir of 
Life he will be able to  create a body of his own. I always thought 
that he would have needed to use the same spell that he did in 
GoF, but that he didn't want to  until he had the elixir and could 
ensure that the new body would be immortal. 

Another flaw in DISHWASHER--According to the theory,  
Dumbledore knew that Voldemort was scheming with other DE's 
including Malfoy,  and this was what persuaded Dumbledore 
to act  instead of waiting for Harry to grow stronger. 

The trouble is there are two steps to the resurrection process, 
and Voldemort needs a weak wizard who's dependent on him 
only for the first part--putting him in ugly baby form.

 If Pettigrew and Voldemort  were strong enough to overcome a 
powerful wizard like Crouch Sr., they could have confronted 
another of the DE's and enlisted him in the plot. In fact they did 
do this with Crouch Jr.. If he hadn't been available, they could 
have used someone else, since according to Dishwasher there 
were lots of wizards who were still helping Voldemort and 
Dumbledore knew this.

How did Dumbledore insure that  Pettigrew was the one chosen 
to donate his flesh? Suppose Voldemort decided to use another 
wizard instead? 

Pippin