Immortal vapour? MAGIC DISHWASHER

[grey_wolf_c]

No: HPFGUIDX 40038

> Pippin wrote:
> What Voldemort says, in PS/SS is that once he has the Elixir of 
> Life he will be able to  create a body of his own. I always thought 
> that he would have needed to use the same spell that he did in 
> GoF, but that he didn't want to  until he had the elixir and could 
> ensure that the new body would be immortal. 

I think someone (me? I don't remember) already suggested that. It's not 
canon based and, really, is beside the point. Voldemort could have 
regained it's old power AND become inmortal at the same time by using 
the stone. The exact method is unknow and will *reamin* unknown.
 
> Another flaw in DISHWASHER--According to the theory,  
> Dumbledore knew that Voldemort was scheming with other DE's 
> including Malfoy,  and this was what persuaded Dumbledore 
> to act  instead of waiting for Harry to grow stronger. 

No, I mantain that what persuaded Dumbledore to act is two things. On a 
low level, he's getting old and doesn't want Voldemort to be forgotten 
(many wizards think he's dead, and if people like Dumbledore don't do 
something to finish him off, two generations from now Voldemort could 
do a reapearance when least expected). That's a minor thing, though. 
What *really* moved Dumbledore to act is the fear that Voldemort will 
find a dishwasher and use the *correct* embodiment method. If that 
happens (says MAGIC DISHWASHER), no-one will have enough power to 
defeat Voldemort, and darkness will rule for all eternity (more or less 
what would have happened if Sauron got the ring, Azash the Belliom, 
Torak Polgara, etc. You know how it goes). Dumbledore has made a big 
gamble, for sure, but it was necessary. By forcing the situation, he 
hoped Voldemort would rush his own plans too, which (fortunately) he 
did. Voldemort could have played the wait-and-see, but he's too 
impatient (most evil overlords tend to be).
 
> The trouble is there are two steps to the resurrection process, 
> and Voldemort needs a weak wizard who's dependent on him 
> only for the first part--putting him in ugly baby form.
> 
>  If Pettigrew and Voldemort  were strong enough to overcome a 
> powerful wizard like Crouch Sr., they could have confronted 
> another of the DE's and enlisted him in the plot. In fact they did 
> do this with Crouch Jr.. If he hadn't been available, they could 
> have used someone else, since according to Dishwasher there 
> were lots of wizards who were still helping Voldemort and 
> Dumbledore knew this.

As I've said already (not that I mind repeating myself, it builds 
consistency), Voldemort was scared of powerfull DE. He can control weak 
personalities like Peter's, but he feared (when in Vapour!Form) that 
other DEs would use him in his debilitated state to further their own 
plans. Since Voldy will not play vassal to anyone, he has stopped from 
contacting his DEs until he felt sure in his body. 

Why Crouch, then? He didn't seem specially powerful to me: more like an 
insecure adolescent lacking a father figure, which Voldemort promptly 
assumed. Even Crouch, however, seems to have had an agenda of his own: 
why else did he teach the future enemies of his master how to resist 
one of his main weapons?
 
> How did Dumbledore insure that Pettigrew was the one chosen 
> to donate his flesh? Suppose Voldemort decided to use another 
> wizard instead? 
>
> Pippin

Why would he? he's already got one. Would you, thinking you just need 
the flesh of a servant willingly taken, go looking for another servant, 
when you've already got one?

Then again, there is a piece of Voldemort's personality we don't really 
know. Further up I said, half-jokingly, that Voldemort is impatient 
because all evil overlords are. Let's look into this a bit more, shall 
we? Voldemort, for reasons unknown, wanted to kill the Potters. He was 
rash with it, though. Instead of sending some lackey to get rid of the 
pester, or taking his minions with him, he went *himself*, *alone*. As 
if he *couldn't wait*. If he really *is* as impatient as this makes him 
out to be, and we asume that Dumbledore knows it as well (after all, 
after having played the spy game for 20-some years, they must know each 
other fairly well), it doesn't look as strange: Dumbledore HAD to send 
someone with the life-debt before some other innocent DADA teacher came 
along Albania and was possesed. Once in England, Voldemort could do 
quite a bit of damage, only by finding his own controllable servant 
(Crab or Goyle sort of come to mind).

Why did he wait in Albania? He didn't have enough power to leave 
without a body --> he needed a faithfull servant, one easily 
manipulable (aka Peter). When he speaks to the other DEs about not 
looking for him, he does it as a way to re-stablish his power. If I was 
him, I wouldn't have liked a poweful DE come along, just in case.

Speaking of Voldemort's favourite hiding place, he seems to gravitate 
to Albania, doesn't he? Why, if he cannot leave, can he *go* there 
after defeats. You'd say he would have even *less* energy after being 
AKed or fleeing after Quirrells painful death. It's canon, though, so 
we'll take it as an article of faith. Maybe Albania is one of the 
sources of magic or better still, a back hole of magic and magic is 
drawn to there, if it's not well-attached. No, I don't think I really 
believe that. Any other ideas?

Hope that helps,

Grey Wolf