Hagrid, the Betrayer? Don't think so... (WAS Re: The Betrayer?)

[darrin_burnett]

No: HPFGUIDX 40047


> But Joe Blackish argued, as pointing out Hagrid's "serious 
problems":
> 
> <>PoA: The whole Buckbeak fiasco. He shouldn't have introduced 
> such a dangerous creature in the first class. He should have 
> noticed that Malfoy wasn't paying attention and should have been 
> more in control of the situation. He has all the kids going up to 
> play with a very dangerous creature at the same time.<>
> 


And Aldrea (great name, by the way) wrote:

> *coughs* Not to get all LOONish on you, but Hagrid did not have all 
> of the kids going up to dangerous creatures at -same- time.  Harry 
> was the only one who trusted Hagrid enough to approach one of the 
> Hippogriffs, and therefore the rest of the class tentively steps up 
> and does what Hagrid tells them to do.  Excuse me, MOST of the rest 
> of the class.  Draco loses no time in disobeying Hagrid at his very 
> first teaching lesson by insulting the Hippogriff and causing the 
> exact effect Hagrid -warned- them against: an attack. Also, they're 
> being watched by a half-giant who would never let any of them be 
hurt 
> if he could help it.  He even immediately pulls the hippogriff off 
> Draco, whom he doesn't even like, if I recall correctly.  And once 
> more, they're in a -wizarding- school.  I don't really see any of 
> them in danger as being maimed for life as Madame Pomfrey can mend 
> broken bones, burns, and cuts so that the person is good as new.
> 
> And I don't see Draco faking a hurt arm as being a "serious" 
> or "major" problem.  It was an annoyance to everyone that liked 
> Hagrid as a friend, and also resulted in Hermione b*tch slapping 
> Draco when he gloated over the annoyance he caused- which I still 
> laugh at every time I read. =P
> 

And I write:

So, basically, it's the teacher's fault that Malfoy completely 
ignored the instructions and did the exact opposite? Frankly, it's 
this attitude that creates little brats like Draco in the first place.

"My son didn't do anything wrong! It must have been the teacher's 
fault!"

The text also says that Draco, Crabbe and Goyle were looking for ways 
to disrupt the class. Harry spotted it and was unable to really do 
anything about it. 

> 
> Joe continued:
> <>And then he's the worst teacher ever for the rest of the 
> year. The children learn absolutely nothing by feeding 
> flobberworms lettuce.<> He deserved to be canned.<>
> 


And Aldrea wrote: 

> That, also, (IMO, I suppose) is Draco's fault. Hagrid completely 
lost 
> his confidence, he had wanted to make a fun class, so he tried 
> something exciting for his frist lesson- when Draco screwed that 
up, 
> he just went completely backwards.  Exciting was too dangerous, he 
> should stick to boring and safeness.  He stopped putting the kids 
> in "danger" when he went to flobberworms, and isn't that what you 
> accused him of doing in his first lesson?
> 
> <>He deserved to be canned.<>
> 
> Are you saying that he was canned, or just that he should be?  
> Because I don't recall him being canned. He is still their CoMC 
> Teacher in GoF, in which he tries to hand in his resignation but 
> Dumbledore, Harry, Ron, and Hermione wouldn't hear of it.  As for 
him 
> deserving to be canned, that really is Dumbeldore's decision.  
<grin>
> 


And I write:

And furthermore, Dumbledore points out that he had gotten lots of 
owls from alumnus and parents, saying they would be furious is Hagrid 
was let go after the half-giant story broke.

I've said that Hagrid could end up being the unintentional betrayer 
in this coming battle, but I also believe he will end up heroic -- 
perhaps dying a heroic death.

More than any other adult in Harry's world, I don't expect Hagrid to 
be alive at the end of Book 7.
 

> ~Aldrea (I think Hagrid deserves an acronym supporting him. Even 
> Snape has one[actually, I think there are several], for crying out 
> loud! =P)


I'm on the case!

SAVE HAGRID FROM COMPLETE DISRESPECT!

Should Albus and Voldemort Epic Hurtle Against Goodness, Remember: 
Indomitable Determination From Rubeus and Olympe May Contribute 
Outstandingly to Master Potter's Lasting Efforts To Eliminate 
Darkness. Indeed, Stalwart Rubeus' Enormous Strength and Power Ends 
Conflict Totally!

Darrin --
I don't hzve a job. I just sit in the dark, coming up with acronyms.