Hagrid the Betrayer/ Hagrid, the one who can't handle his job

[jenny_ravenclaw]

No: HPFGUIDX 40120

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "aldrea279" <chetah27 at h...> wrote:
 
> Jenny:
> >A number of members here have mentioned that one of Hagrid's  
problems is that, even though he is an adult, he is not quite as 
developed as one. I agree and see that as a serious flaw in Hagrid's 
character.> 
> 
> There's a number of adult characters that are also not quite 
developed- Snape, Sirius, Lupin, and some have even said Dumbledore 
himself.>

Oops!  My bad.  I can see I didn't explain myself clearly here.  What 
I meant was that Hagrid's character is written as someone who more 
like a child than an adult.  His character is quite well developed, 
but his maturity within his characterization is not.  If Hagrid was a 
real person, I would see him as a man who is acts like a boy.

> Hagrid doesn't really see the Trio as being students outside of the 
> classroom, he sees them as good friends.  He had some hardships, and 
> he got some advice from some friends.  It's not as if Hagrid was 
> blubbering away while talking about flobberworms- he was doing so in 
> the confines of his own household and with good friends.>

Isn't there a scene when he runs off crying in front of the class?  I 
believe it is in PoA when Hermione ends up slapping Draco.

> ~Aldrea, whose mom doesn't even read HP so has no idea how she feels  
about Hagrid.  But also, who is not in any way trying to get Jenny to  
like Hagrid(that is so obviously an up-Mount-Everest battle), but  
feels that if you're not going to like him you should have more basis  
than Draco being a brat or something Hagrid didn't even do(like  
giving Rita dirt on Harry or blaming Hagrid for making his teaching 
dangerous).>

Why not?  I don't like Hagrid.  I find him annoying.  I think his 
obsession with "interestin' creatures" is stupid and irritating.  I 
hate him for not having a backbone when it came to Draco; he backed 
down way too fast, something I, as a teacher, would never have done in 
that situation.  I also think he gave Rita Skeeter plenty of dirt, on 
himself as well as on Harry.  Why Hagrid ever thought it would be okay 
to be interviewed by her is beyond me.  It was stupid and 
self-centered.

Hagrid's strongest moments IMO are the ones when he defends the people 
he cares about.  The scene in SS with the Dursleys is wonderful and 
the way he slammed Karkaroff against the tree in GoF is maybe how he 
should have allowed himself to react to Draco in PoA for being such a 
poor student.  Unfortunately, I don't think Hagrid is intelligent or 
confident enough to do that.  He could have so easily turned the 
tables on Draco, claiming that Draco put the entire class at risk when 
he didn't listen to directions and provoked a hippogriff.  Or why did 
it take Professor Grubbly-Plank (did I remember her name right) to 
make Hagrid prove to his class that he *did* know his stuff when it 
came to magical creatures?  These are the things that make me 
uncomfortable with Hagrid.  He's a weak link.  

--jenny from ravenclaw, wondering where her fellow Hagird-basher, 
Cindy is right now - grrrr *************