A question about Sirius/Voldemort's death/sexuality in HP/The vaults at Grin

nuriaobradors nobradors at hotmail.com
Sat Jun 22 21:11:55 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 40206

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"danellegirl56" <danellegirl56 at y...> wrote:
>  At the end of GoF, when Dumbledore sends Sirius off on his mission 
> to contact the "old crowd", I'm wondering how exactly he's going to 
> do this. I mean, most of the world still thinks he's a dangerous 
> criminal. Lupin didn't even know, so why would people who 
> (presumedly) had less contact with the Potters know? I wondered if 
> perhaps Dumbledore had informed them, but if Dumbledore has means 
of 
> communication, why would he need Sirius to go get them? Any ideas?

Welcome Danelle! I was browsing through that that very passage 
yesterday, and notice Dumbledore also tells Sirius to "lie low at 
Lupin's for a while" and that "I'll contact you there". My guess is 
that probably AD will inform the "old crowd" of what really happened 
with Sirius and PP, perhaps even with Remus' collaboration. 

Liz wrote:
>>> Okay, when 
Voldemort was "killed" the first time, (incident that resulted in 
Harry's scar) he was able to come back. He was able to become a 
parasite off of Quirrell. Then, finally, in book four, he got his 
body back. So what I'm asking is, if Voldemort can keep on coming 
back like that, how can they ever really kill him? <<<

I guess the only way to kill him is killing his soul. Other that 
getting a dementos to kiss him, I don't recall other means of making 
sure the soul dies along with the body. Let's hope Harry finds one by 
the end of book 7! <bg>

Amanda thinks she's abnormal because:
>>>watching that thread on sexuality
and the age of discovery, and how our 13 and 14 year old hero/ines are
behind the curve. I must truly be some kind of dinosaur or have a 
hormonal imbalance or something <snip birthday party> I never even 
dated in high school.

>>So my question to the list is: how many of you really got the sexual
undertones that Elkins has pointed up? *As* sexual? Because I did 
notice the particular word usage, and its effectiveness in creating a 
creepy atmosphere, in all instances quoted--it just never struck me 
as sexual.

>>>Of course, I'm one of the ones who thinks sexual by-play will get 
in the way of a good story....but then again, I'm abnormal, aren't I?

Well, Amanda, welcome to the abnormality club. I totally agree with 
you. I never even fancied boys around me until I was 17 (and 
I'm "only" 27 now). I did like actors, but though I thought about 
sex, it was only a theoretical subject when applied to real life. I 
don't know where you are from, but I do, however, see a lot of 
concern regarding dating, kissing, even sex, in American films or TV 
shows portraying teenagers. Maybe is a cultural issue rather than an 
abnormality one? Or a generational issue, for instance, as I see 
teenagers now tend to discover their sexuality earlier in life, at 
least here in Argentina.

Sarah wonders:
> (1) Why did Black bother to mention what his vault number was 
(unless
> he was being such a kind godfather as to give Harry access to his
> wealth if Harry needs it)?

Uhmmm... Guilt? "plesae, believe me, it's my own vault I took the 
money from, you can check the extract from the account". Not that 
Sirius seems the guilty-type, but given the circumstances, who knows. 
Another possibility is so we wonder about questions 2 and 3!

> (2) How come Dumbledore or Hogwarts itself has a mega-high security
> vault just one door (if the Gringott's tunnels use the 'odd numbers
> one side even numbers the other' system) or two doors away from that
> of a convicted murderer and Azkaban prisoner?

Perhaps mega-high security vaults are not in a specific plece in 
Gringotts but rather you ask your vault to be standard or high 
security the moment you open your account. Whether is coincidence or 
not that Sirius' vault is practically next to to the PS vault, only 
time will tell, but if it is, I don't find it likely that AD or SB 
knows about this vicinity. I mean, if you're withdrawing money from 
your vault and someone needs to do the same from the vault next to 
yours, I believe the Goblins would wait until you come back so 
neither customer knows who's their vault neighbour or, worse, what 
have the got in their vaults.

> and (3) - WHat the heck is in vault number seven hundred and twelve?

455 galleons, 545 sickles and 1 knut. (Okay, just kidding!)

Nuri





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