Defense of Hagrid (was Re: Hagrid, Dumbledore, & Second Chances (LONG)
cmf_usc
cmf_usc at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 24 19:16:37 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 40282
Richelle wrote:
<<<Well, I've followed this discussion of Hagrid and his ability (or
not) to teach. I am a teacher, so I can see things from his point of
view. When I'm starting an activity with my students, I warn them
of any dangers before I begin. Hagrid did this, but Malfoy wasn't
listening. If a student is then injured, it's their fault. Now, I
know the parents will more than likely take their child's side, just
as Lucius Malfoy did. I've been there. However, as long as I had
given them specific directions and the child is injured because they
either didn't listen or didn't follow the directions, the principal
will side with me, as the teacher. Which is what Dumbledore did.>>>
::waves to fellow teacher::
The Draco Incident is one of the few times that I *don't* fault
Hagrid. You're right, he did exactly what he should have, as a
teacher.
Like Jenny, I have a problem with his behavior afterwards. Hagrid
completely scrapped his curriculum in favor of teaching
flobberworms. Which, apparently, don't require a whole lot of
teaching.
It reminds me of a situation I was in last year. A new student
transferred into my class and took exception with my discipline
plan. She threw a book (literally) at me when she was assigned
silent lunch for breaking rules. It would have been wrong for me,
the teacher, to cave into that and remove silent lunch from my
consequences or to tiptoe around her in the future. I can't let a
student scare me off; and that's what Hagrid did, IMHO.
But I fault Dumbledore as well, for assigning someone who is not a
fully trained wizard, much less trained as a teacher, to teach.
I also *really* fault Hagrid for raising Norbert and letting students
solve his problems with the dragon for him. And not standing up for
those students when they are given detentions, lose more house points
than anyone ever has before, and are socially ostracized for it.
That's not fitting behavior for a school employee, IMHO, even if he
isn't a full-fledged teacher at this point.
Richelle again:
<<To me it seems like he was created as a character that children
would like, and as the books reach higher levels, the purpose of his
character will cease to exist. I don't want him to die, but I think
he will. With honor, I'm sure.>>
Me:
Yup, I think he's a goner. In large part because we've already
learned *so much* about his backstory, whereas we still have a lot to
learn about other characters. I personally think this mission with
the giants is the last useful thing Hagrid can do as an alive
character; then he will be more useful dead, provoking character-and-
relationship-building situations for Harry & co.
Although I will be sad for Harry when he goes. Because he loves
Harry, and Harry loves him, and wish I could like him... but I just
can't. *sigh*
Caroline
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