Defense of Hagrid, Hagrid's Teaching, Flobberworms, etc.(long)

jenny_ravenclaw meboriqua at aol.com
Wed Jun 26 01:11:39 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 40356

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "aldrea279" <chetah27 at h...> wrote:
 
> Why, though? Why is it a bad thing for Hagrid to relate some of his 
> problems to the open ears of his friends?>

It is inappropriate.  Would you have wanted to hear your teachers tell 
you about their personal problems?  If you were a teacher, would you 
have accepted the help of your students when you knew they should have 
been doing their homework - or when you should have been taking care 
of things yourself?  Why couldn't Hagrid have gone to the library to 
research hippogriff trials?  Whether Harry and friends went to Hagrid 
or not, he shouldn't have told them as much as he did - Harry, 
Hermione and Ron were only 13 at the time! 
 
One of my colleagues is constantly telling the students how tired he 
is and how he didn't get enough sleep this night or that, how sick he 
feels, blah blah blah.  *I* don't even want to hear it.  It's 
unprofessional and inappropriate.    

> Oh, come one.  If Hagrid had layed a finger on Draco, Hagrid-Haters  
everywhere would be outraged that a teacher would do so to a student-  
no matter how much Draco deserved it. No, I must say Karkaroff 
deserved it, but Hagrid was dealing with a full-fledged, Death-Eating 
wizard; slamming a child, one as panicky(I really can't believe Draco, 
who is supposed to be a cunning Slytherin, decides that he is dead 
when lolling around on the floor after Buckbeak clawed him) and  
spoiled as Draco around is not the right thing, nor a Hagrid thing to 
do.>

I never said Hagrid should have put his hands on Draco and I never 
said that Karkaroff deserved to get slammed up against a tree.  What I 
meant, though, is that Hagrid could have been much stricter with Draco 
and certainly could have made a good case (with all of his Gryffindor 
students to back him as witnesses, I'm sure) against Draco's behavior.  
Draco has been punished before - in SS and in PoA.  He is not above 
punishment.  There is a point in GoF where Hagrid puts Draco in his 
place and it works very well.  I think it's a shame that Hagrid can't 
think on his feet more often, something teachers generally have to 
learn to be good at.

Hagrid as a teacher is just something that I don't approve of.  In 
reality (and I know HP isn't reality - most of the time, anyway), 
Hagrid would have received all sorts of professional support and 
training right after the Buckbeak incident, but by the end of the year 
when the students had done nothing but fed Flobberworms for nine 
months, he would have been removed or transferred.  Whether or not it 
was suggested to him to start with Flobberworms, he should have had 
the common sense to know to move on to other things after a few days - 
maybe a week at the most.  Hagrid, however, does *not* have the common 
sense I think one needs to be a teacher at Hogwarts.  I have to admit 
it: in a small way I understand why Draco didn't want Hagrid as a 
teacher.  I wouldn't want him either.  I'll take Snape any day.

--jenny from ravenclaw ******





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