Finding Voldemort/Cruciatus Curse makes you stronger

[bluesqueak]

No: HPFGUIDX 40420

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "davewitley" <dfrankiswork at n...> wrote:

> > 
> Elkins wrote:
> > But how did he manage to find Voldemort so quickly?
> > 
> > David touched on this issue a few days ago, when he wrote (in 

> > regard to the Spying Game Theory's claim that a number of the DEs 
> >really are loyal to Voldemort):
> > 
> MAGIC DISHWASHERS all gone a bit quiet, hm?
> 
> David, who agrees with Elkins that public expressions of loyalty, 
> however futile, are way more important to Voldemort than winning 
the war
> 

Well, the response to The Spying Game II was so relatively quiet that 
I assumed everyone had either gone into the MAGIC DISHWASHER and come 
out happily with shiny new can(n)ons, or alternatively, had been 
beaten to death by the sheer weight of quotation. :-)

How did Pettigrew find Voldemort so quickly? No one was stopping him 
finding Voldemort, that's why. 

ANY of the DE's could have physically reached Voldemort - the problem 
was that the faithful DE's were all known, had their descriptions 
circulated amongst Aurors, and would have been watched every inch of 
the way to (and in) Albania. Faithful DE's couldn't 'find' Voldemort 
because it would have meant letting Dumbledore know *exactly* where 
Voldemort was. 

Voldemort can't be killed - that doesn't mean he can't be captured. 
Or petrified. Bad for the DE's, and something they'd try and avoid at 
all costs; but short of the for-all-time solution that Dumbledore is 
aiming for, since a captured Voldemort can escape, and a petrified 
Voldemort can be un-petrified. Hence the MAGIC DISHWASHER.

The DE's who weren't known-and-blown were also the one's Second In 
Command Lucius Malfoy (or 'M', if you prefer) didn't trust an inch - 
they might well have decided that turning Voldemort in was a *really* 
good way to display loyalty to the new regime. Nope, let's not send 
them. 

Yes, there were attempts to find and reach Voldemort in the few 
months after post-Baby!Harry chaos (the Lestranges) - which is when 
it became very obvious indeed that suspected DE's were being closely 
watched. However, not closely enough for the Longbottoms - in fact, 
would the Lestranges have *been* arrested if they hadn't decided to 
torture the Longbottoms to the point of insanity? Or would they 
simply have been followed, in the hope that their search led the MoM 
staight to Voldemort?

Lestranges managed to 'talk their way out of Azkaban' (p. 457 GoF, UK 
hardback), huh? Or were allowed out because they were reckoned as 
Most Likely DE's To Lead Us Straight To Voldemort?

Pettigrew? No descriptions circulating to MoM agents of Pettigrew 
(why should there be? - he's dead.) Dumbledore hasn't told those 
sources of his mentioned in CoS to look out for a rat/person of the 
Pettigrew persuasion either. Or if he HAS, the instructions are of 
the 'allowed to pass' variety. 

MAGIC DISHWASHER means Pettigrew was 'allowed' to reach Voldemort. 
The DE's don't realise this because they think they know how 
Pettigrew could get there safely - everyone thinks he's dead.

As poor Bertha Jorkins shows, it is possible to travel to Albania, 
possible to get quite close to Voldemort - and possible to end up 
dead. What kills her is sticking her nose into the deadly game that's 
being played out in Albania - something that was not her business:

"But why, Bertha," said Dumbledore sadly, ... "why did you have to 
follow him in the first place?" (GoF p. 520 UK hardback)


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Cindy writes:
> who thinks Pip and her MAGIC DISHWASHER will *not* like the 
> idea that Cruciatus makes a wizard stronger

Funny you should think that ;-)

So, you're working on Thick-As-A-Brick Voldemort now? Oops!-I-forgot-
Cruciatus-makes-a-wizard-stronger Voldemort? I'm-in-the-middle-of-a-
'to-the-death'-duel,-so-let's-just-blast-Harry-twice-with-a-spell-
that-actually-makes-him-stronger Voldemort? Pleeeease!

Oops!-I-forgot!Voldemort is one thing, but 'Cruciatus as Mars 
Bar'[helps you work, rest and play] is Dark-Magic-Resurrections-will-
give-you-brain-damage,-so-please-don't-try-this-at-home-kiddies!
Voldemort. [grin]

And all the other people in the Wizarding World who so foolishly made 
Cruciatus an Unforgivable! Goodness, it was just because they don't 
want the WW full of incredibly powerful wizards - silly me, for 
thinking otherwise. [Even Bigger Grin]

Naah. Any 'strengthening' effect Cruciatius has is probably because 
it really concentrates your mind wonderfully on the problem of 'how 
to avoid getting a second blast'. 

Pip (who does like the idea that the strength of Imperius depends on 
the strength of the wizard casting it - good one) 
Squeak.