Why did Voldemort want to kill Harry?
m.bockermann at t-online.de
m.bockermann at t-online.de
Sat Mar 9 23:06:37 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 36267
KK - the Lily and Voldemort theory are related was (and in a way still is,
in way) my pet theory. The fact that JKR Herself has called the possibility
that LV could be Liliy's father "too Star Wars" (*not* exact quote) was a
hard blow. I comfort myself with the possibility that a different kind of
relationship might *not* be too starwarsish.
And the reason I haven't given up on the theory altogether are largely the
reasons you mentioned. Calling Lily - an adult woman - "girl" and giving her
a way to back out... making it possible for to make the decision to
sacrifice herself... I don't believe he met then for the first time.
And there is a reason why I have suspicions about the
"Lily-is-a-mudblood-fact" and it has a name: Draco Malfoy. The way I see
him, Draco considers squibs and mudbloods the way a racist would think of
people that are not white or are not "pureblooded" (just writing about it
makes me sick :-( ). He is litist but - in the honored tradition of
Slytherins - he sticks to his friends and is loyal to them. He might regard
Crabby and Goyle as slow, but there is no indication that he is a bad friend
towards them. So when he offers his friendship, I believe him to be honest
about it.
And he offers Harry his friendship - in the tailor's shop. And again in the
train, when he knows who he is. Harry turns down his offer. In a way he also
turns down the offer when he asks the hat no to be sent to Slytherin. (I
believe the hat when it says that he would have fared well in Slytherin).
When Draco insults Hermione or the Weasley's he always speaks as if Harry is
"too good" for such people and as if when Harry would "finally find his
wits" he would join him. I believe these offers to be sincere. I am sure
some will disagree, but I believe Draco here. When they shortened SS they
made sure that Harry still had the opportunity to actively turn down Draco's
offer for friendship. I believe, that Draco would have been a loyal friend
towards Harry. Now... why would he do all of this?
His father is a Deatheater, so it's not as if Draco would be impressed with
Harry's "victory" over LV. As far as we know, only Harry's father was a
wizard and his mother a "mudlbood", making Harry a "halfblood". And those
people are usually not very high on Draco's popularity list. So why would he
try to gain Harry's friendship? Does he know something about Harry's
ancestry that Harry doesn't know? Something that makes Harry accetable in
the eyes of people like the Malfoys? Draco knew about Sirius' supposed
treason - so he has proven that he knows more about Harry than Harry
himself.
A relationship between Lily and LV would explain lots of things...
- Starting for example with the fact that green is associated with Harry's
and Lily's eyes, but mostly with bad stuff like the AK, the Slytherin house
(being one of its colors) and snakes. The thing about Harry's and LV's wand.
- It is also a reason to justify why Harry has not told Hermione and Ron
about it - it might be that members of the same family have similiar wands.
Thus, if somebody learned about Harry's wand, the relationship might become
obvious. Remember, when DD told Sirius about it in GoF, Sirius was shocked.
Similarily, Harry hasn't told anybody besides DD that he could have gone to
Slytherin, if he didn't decide differently. I assume that people usually end
up in the house of their parents. If the parents were in different houses,
the kid has a choice. Thus Padma and Parvati Patil have parents who were not
in the same house and chose different houses.
- The fact that Harry speaks Parsel. I don't believe in the theory that this
talent simply "rubbed" off LV onto Harry. It would make it... fake, somehow.
If Harry survived only because of Harry's sacrifice and he gained some of
his power's through the attack by LV - why would LV attack him in the first
place? What was so important about Harry that he hunted down the Potters?
Yes, I know, there is the Trelawny-prediction thing. But that doesn't ring
true with me. Let's assume that she predicted that Harry would defeat LV. If
this refers to LV's first attack on Harry, she has been proven wrong (LV is
now stronger than ever) and this can't be the correct prediction. (Remember,
at the beginning of SS DD makes it clear in his conversation with McGonagall
that he doubts that LV is dead.) If this refers to a defeat that hasn't
happened yet, then again it can't be the correct prediction. All in all, the
Trelawny-prediction doesn't convince me. Likewise, the
Heir-of-Gryffindor-theory doesn't convince me either. If the heir of
Gryffindor can defeat LV, why didn't James defeat him? Why would Harry
survive, while James died? And why would LV believe one of Trelawny's
ramblings, if, up to her first correct prediction, she never made a correct
prediction at all?
A relationship between Lily and LV would explain the Parsel thing more
logically.
- A relationship between Lily and LV would give the Potters an incentive to
hide. And they tried everything: they excluded even their best friends from
their secret and they used a Pettigrew as a keeper for their secret. From
the movie we know that they lived as Muggles when LV found them. Were they
hoping that LV wouldn't find them in the Muggle world?
A relationship of any kind between Lily and LV would explain so many things
that remain unlogical otherwise. I'm looking forward to hearing your
arguements.
For now, I will step of the soap box now and stop my ramblings.
Take care,
Barbara Jebenstreit
KK wrote:
Now, I don't remember that part about "the last Potter," so I can't
comment, but I do think this Lily question is an interesting one. I
have often dismissed the idea of a relationship between Lily and LV,
but Voldemort does strike me as a take no prisoners kind of guy.
Plus, now that I think about it, the way he talks to her in Harry's
memories sounds a little different than I would expect. There seems
to be some familiarity there. I don't have PoA with me, but I think
he says something like "Stand aside girl. Don't be a fool." He's
definitely giving her a friendly out there and I don't know why he
would do that, unless he honestly didn't want to kill her if he
didn't have to. If he didn't care two wits about her, wouldn't he
more likely say "You little fool, do you think a little witch like
yourself can stand up to me? (cackle, cackle, cackle)"?
Since Lily was Muggle-born, it does seem unlikely Voldemort has any
blood relationship to her unless Tom Riddle had a brother or sister
we don't know about who was not at all magical and so lived as a
Muggle. (Aside: Would a non-magical child with only half-wizard
blood be called a squib? Anyone?) Another option is that Lily was his
daughter and he gave her up or didn't know about her or she was taken
from him and raised by Muggle parents . . . ooooh, killing his own
daughter and grandchild. That's very bad! That's also a little too
Star Wars for me.
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