[HPforGrownups] Snape's spying career
Porphyria
porphyria at mindspring.com
Sun Mar 10 23:43:34 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 36295
Regarding Dumbledore's revelation of Snape's spying career in the
Pensieve scene, Elkins wrote:
> Even so, though, surely Dumbledore's pronouncement could have placed
> Snape at far greater risk from other (still at-large) Death Eaters?
> He makes the pronouncement during Karkaroff's plea bargain, at a time
> when the Ministry clearly believes that there are many Death Eaters
> not only still at large, but also as-yet unidentified. For that
> matter, he makes the pronouncement after it has become clear that
> there might still be Death Eater moles within the very ministry
> itself! It just seemed a bit...inconsiderate to me.
I've heard other people theorize that perhaps everyone in the Pensieve
was put under a secrecy charm, but that may be a little pat. Still, in
defense of Dumbledore, I think it's possible that all 200 of the wizards
at Karkaroff's hearing already knew that Snape was cleared because he
was a spy. I'm not sure if this is new information to any of them at the
time.
When Karkaroff mentions Snape, it is Crouch Sr. who first sniffs: "Snape
has been cleared by this council...He has been vouched for by Albus
Dumbledore." He says cleared by "this council" which makes me think the
council members could be the exact same 200 people present. Plus, there
is no mention of any buzz of murmurs rushing through the crowd the way
there was just before when Karkaroff mentioned Rookwood. So maybe it's
old news to them. Lastly, when Dumbledore stands to say that he has
"already" given evidence in the matter, he does it "calmly" as if he's
merely reminding everyone. He doesn't seem pressed as you'd think he
would be if he were trying to convince people.
Well, that leaves a couple of problems, such as potential moles in the
Ministry. But still, if there's a mole amongst these 200, they might
already know all about Snape. The other question might be why is
Dumbledore so nonchalant about letting the likes of Karkaroff know that
Snape was a spy per se. All I can think of here is that maybe Dumbledore
figured that since Karkaroff had just sung like a bird that his own
status amongst the former DEs would be even worse than Snape's; at least
Snape can theoretically claim that he duped Dumbledore into believing he
was a spy. Karkaroff pretty much has to exile himself to the unplottable
Durmstrang to avoid his old DE buddies. (Well, that's the way I imagine
it. Karkaroff certainly tends to run from his troubles. ;-))
After the initial fall of Voldemort, Dumbledore apparently had to do
*something* to keep Snape from going to Azkaban. The implication is
certainly that Snape was spying for Dumbledore personally, and not in
any official capacity for the MOM. The MOM performed some sort of
hearing or investigation or something into Snape that required D's
testimony to get him cleared (it's not stated that Snape was arrested
and put on trial, but it seems that the MOM could have if they'd felt
the need to). So Dumbledore might have been more or less forced to spill
the beans semi-publicly then. Putting Snape's life in danger from a
bunch of former DE's who have their own reputations to restore is still
better than letting him go to prison.
I myself haven't ruled out the possibility that Snape is more or less
stuck at Hogwarts because he's safer there. We never see him go out for
a drink at Hogsmeade with his fellow heads of house. We certainly never
bump into him in Diagon alley or at the Quidditch World Cup. Apart from
the Shack incident, does he go off campus ever?
Also, I'm in the camp that refuses to believe that at the end of GoF he
was sent back to rejoin the DEs so as to spy again. I think that the
fact that Harry has already pondered as much is enough to rule the
possibility out. :-) So maybe it's sort of OK if some people know he at
least claimed to be a spy. Sort of. I've also argued that I don't think
it's common knowledge that he was a spy or a DE at all, so maybe the 200
wizards in the Pensieve could keep a secret after all. I guess we'll
see....
~~Porphyria
[I'm the arbiter, I know the score
From square one I'll be watching all 64]
Dammit, Elkins, now you've got that whole soundtrack stuck in my
head!!! :-)
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