[HPforGrownups] Divination, Snapes' Whereabouts, and SYCOPHANTS

[Jennifer Boggess Ramon]

No: HPFGUIDX 36542

At 1:52 PM +0000 3/14/02, jklb66 wrote:
>
>She also predicts that, "Around Easter, one of our number will leave
>us forever."  I don't believe that Trelawney had any idea that
>Hermione would quit the class, but that doesn't change the fact that
>she did.

This was an incredibly vague prediction that could have come true in 
a number of ways: an expulsion, a death, etc.  When nothing that 
could have been interpreted as the event predicted occurred, she 
_made_ the prediction come true, by badgering Hermione out of the 
class.  You're not allowed to do that, needless to say.

>And one prediction that bothers me:  in PoA, at Christmas dinner,
>Trelawney is reluctant to sit at the table because, "Never forget
>that when thirteen dine together, the first to rise will be the first
>to die!"

I wonder where she got this.  It can't be from the usual sources 
about thirteens being unlucky; the first to rise from _that_ table 
was the _second_ to die.

At any rate, it's not a prediction, as she states it as a generality.

>Many of
>us have predicted that either Ron or Harry will not survive book 7,
>and here is Trelawney predicting the same thing.

Unless she makes this one come true, too, I doubt we really need to 
worry about this one.



At 5:25 PM -0800 3/13/02, Ronald Rae Yu wrote:
>Where was Snape the night Quirrell was trying to steal
>the stone? Isn't it he knows somebody (Quirrell) is
>trying to steal it? Why was he not as protective of
>the stone as the trio? Does he really want Voldemort
>to have the stone, after all, pretending that he's
>trying to stop Quirrell so that nobody (including
>Quirrell) will suspect him?

Given that he can't get past Fluffy, as previously demonstrated, 
there's little he can do after both Quirrell and the Trio have gotten 
past that point.  Assuming that Quirrell got away from him in the 
hallways, perhaps he was the one who tipped off Dumbledore that their 
trap was sprung . . .



At 7:54 PM +0000 3/14/02, lucky_kari wrote:
>When you read the Shrieking Shack scene for the first time, were you
>feeling it more from Sirius/Lupin's angry POV or Pettigrew's
>desperately afraid POV?

Hermione's fingers-over-eyes viewpoint, actually.  I certainly felt 
sorry for Pettigrew (especially since I assumed he was buck naked), 
but I wasn't going to intervene to save him, as it were.


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