Dobby & his family, Snape & Gryffindor, Good & Evil

finwitch finwitch at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 21 07:08:16 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 36788

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "saintbacchus" <saintbacchus at y...> wrote:

> Finwitch writes:
> <<
> He got it all wrong. Snarling insults at students never
> helps them to learn. Besides, he's illogical on how a
> Gryffindor is supposed to be. He yells at them when they
> don't help Neville *and* when they do help him. Giving
> penalty to Hermione for giving correct answers? No -
> he's giving them penalties no matter WHAT they do in his
> class.
> >>
> 
> Well, Snape's attitude doesn't help Neville, but I don't
> think there's any evidence that the other students are
> substantially affected.
> 
> When I was in 11th grade English, I had a really nice
> teacher. She was very generous with her grades and
> didn't make us do much work. Great, but when I got to
> 12th grade English, I had a wise-ass teacher who wrote
> snide comments all over my papers. For me at least, the
> drive to get a paper back with no comments on it improved
> my essays by years.

In Essays, not public - and supposedly not very personal, but about 
the essay. I've had benefit of a *great* teacher - she was strict, 
exact, expected us to work for each and every lesson regardless 
whether she was there but, *never* any insults at a student. It was 
always task-based commentary - on exactly why this way to solve the 
problem isn't enough.

Contrasting to Snape: calling someone "idiot" on an error and losing 
temper is not helping anyone to learn anything but reluctance to try.
 
> Likewise, Snape's constant punishment of Gryffindor
> students seems to strengthen their resolve. Harry never
> walks away from a Snape-related injustice wondering if
> maybe he's just a bad kid; he's more sure than ever of
> his moral center.

Well, Harry - who's already got blamed and punished by Dursleys for 
something he didn't know he did - or didn't do.

We don't know how Hermione reacts - or the others. Neville's probably 
even more convinced on being no-good a wizard...

Also... Snape blaming Harry for thing X -- Harry didn't do it, but 
*someone* did! Who's the one yearning for attention and public 
adorance? Ron, perhaps?





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