Rules / Ghosts & Poltergeist / 1945 / Harry the Slytherin /

catlady_de_los_angeles catlady at wicca.net
Sat May 11 06:53:48 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 38661

David Frankis wrote:

> (I wonder, are *any* of the HP characters intended to be something 
> which the reader should aspire to emulate? I think not myself.)

Harry!

> but perhaps JKR's real message here is that we don't need ever make
> a judgement,

*Maybe* we don't need to make a judgment of Arthur's behavior, but 
we certainly do have to make a judgment of our own possible behaviors 
in order to choose among them.

Cindy Sphynx wrote:

> Now, ghosts aren't my specialty, so forgive me if I mess this up. I
> get the sense, however, that ghosts and poltergeists can act on 
> their surroundings. Throwing water balloons and such. Stealing the 
> egg of a champion (no, Peeves didn't do this, but Filch thought he 
> could). 

Peeves the poltergeist can act on his surroundings as you mention -- 
Nick got him to knock over some furniture to distract Filch from 
catching Harry on some night-time escapade. The ghosts have very 
limited ability to act on their surroundings -- IIRC Myrtle's weeping 
makes her toilet overflow, and flushing it can flush her down the 
pipes; the extremely rotted food at the deathday party smells so 
strongly that the ghosts can get a faint sensation of taste/smell 
(which are much the same thing for us living humans) by floating 
through it; humans get very cold when touched by a ghost, but the 
touch passes right through them. This is another evidence that 
poltergeists are not ghosts, besides the bit in the first appearance 
of the ghosts at the Arrival Feast in SS: "My dear Friar, haven't we 
given Peeves all the chances he deserves? He gives us all a bad name 
and you know, he's not really even a ghost -- I say, what are you all 
doing here?"

Dicey wrote:

> "Why do you think Dumbledore created Tom in the first place, if 
> that's what he did? Do you think it had anything to do with 
> defeating Grindelwald in 1945?" 

http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/timeline_main.html
Sometimes I think some of the years in Steve's timeline are a year 
early or a year late, but mostly I agree with them. Tom Marvolo 
Riddle born 1926, finished school of Hogwarts in June 1945...

Sailor Moirae wrote:

> On a hilarious note... think about what the canon would be like if
> Draco and Harry were a team... *shudders*... LOL. 

There are a few Alternate Universe fanfics with that plot, including 
most of the second volume of Barb's trilogy. 
http://www.schnoogle.com/authorLinks/Barb/





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