A theory... One variable that would change Harry for the worst/ R/H SHIP/Ron

Nuria Obradors nobradors at hotmail.com
Tue May 14 22:48:25 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 38754

>Ethanol said:
>I don't think the Hat puts you where you WANT to go, it puts you
>where you belong.  Ooh...I just had a thought.  Perhaps the Hat
>saw that Harry himself was slightly torn about his choices?
>(Gryffindor/Slytherin, good/evil, Harry doesn't seem to be that
>great of a decision maker)

Why do people think Slytherin's characteristic is Evil? The fact that
all dark wizards come from Slytherin (and if PP wasn't in Slytherin,
which we still don't know, the Evil!Slytherin concept would die),
doesn't mean that all Slytherins are dark wizards. Wasn't Gandhi
ambitious, for instance? It would be as saying, since Haemophilics does
only manifests in men, all men are haemophilic. Bigot, IMHO.

Barb said:
>>>>  Harry clearly has
a certain amount of ambition.  Whether he comes by this naturally
(his mum and dad were Head Girl and Boy, after all) or because of
Voldemort is debatable.  When the hat tells him he could be great in
Slytherin, I think it is truly waiting to hear his reaction.  If he
had said, "Really?  How great?  Would I eventually be greater than
Dumbledore?" the hat would have seen that ambition was a very large
part of his personality; Harry did not do that, however, and the hat
knew that however much ambition Harry had, it was not overwhelming
and he had attributes that required him to be elsewhere.<<<<

I agree with you. As someone posted some days ago, maybe the hat saw in
Harry several qualities that matched him to more than one house. In
fact, in PS it's Harry, not the hat, that mentions Slytherin first. I
quote:
"Difficult. Very Difficult. Plenty of courage, I see (Gryffindor). not a
bad mind, either. There's talent, oh, my goodness, yes (Ravenclaw and/or
Hufflepuff?) -*and a nice thirst to prove yourself* (Slytherin!). So
where shall I put you?" harry then thinks, "not Slytherin, not
Slytherin"

Probably the hat was pondering in which of those houses would  it put
Harry in, and Harry's desire to wanting TO NOT GO to certain house
surprised it. Probably it's used to first-years having no clue of which
house is like what or wanting TO GO to certain house because dad went
there or my friend goes there.

I also agree that Harry's reason for not wanting to be in Slytherin has
a name that starts with Draco and ends with Malfoy. Now for a new twist
of the theory: What if Harry had NOT met Draco at all and the hat had
still put him in Slytherin? Would they be friends then? How much of an
outcast would Harry -or any other sensitive person- be in Slytherin?

Barb:
?  I doubt that the hat is able to
see the future.  It would be the Divination teacher if that were
true.<g> (Hey, a ghost teaches one of the classes, why not a hat?)

It surely be better than Trelawney, if you ask me...<vbeg>
****
David pointed out:
>>>>Less sure about this.  I think Ron may simply fail to realise that
what he believes intellectually about elves, giants etc. contradicts
what is in practice his positive and open outlook (as I see it)
towards other individuals.  He is partially aware of it over Hagrid.
If he does relaise it he could move a lot closer to Hermione's
position on those issues.  (As an aside, where *do* the Weasleys get
their prejudices from? I think Molly.)<<<<

Oh yes!!! That's what exactly what I was trying to say in my post about
Ron's supposed envy (sorry, I don't have the message Number handy)


Nuri, who blushed when Penny Linsenmayer found her Prank Theory
"fascinating"




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