TBAY: MACHINGARMCHAIR, Lestange and extras.

[jtdogberry]

No: HPFGUIDX 39151



Dogberry staggers around, with a bottle in one hand, a big grin and 
then looks out to the bay. For some strange reason all the boats are 
going around in circles, but then again, there is only one paddle 
left. But surley they are trying to go somewhere, Where though?

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--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "charisjulia" <pollux46 at h...> wrote:
 
> What makes us so sure, Debbie, that Neville at the Gryffindor 
> celebration party is really sitting there thinking "Hang on. Better 
> be sure of exactly what I'm going to say before I open my mouth. 
> Right. First thing's first. Now, I hear the Egg right there in 
front 
> of me. Lets just imagine the sound of my parents being tortured and 
> then compare the results."
> 
> 
> Unlikely.
> 
> 
> Neville is in * shock* right then. He's not thinking straight. He's 
> not conducting a thorough scientific examination of high—decibel 
> noises, but, quite to the contrary, what he basically is is 
> frightened * out* of his wits. I repeat. He's in * shock*. And now 
to 
> poove it.

> Charis hands the book over indicting a small paragraph quoting a 
> survivor of the Great War. Debbie flicks through the passage: 
> 
> "The noise of a slamming gate, a flaring gaslight, a train whistle, 
> the barking of a dog or some boyish prank is enough to set off my 
> trembling. Or, sometimes the trembling comes without a reason. 
<snip> 
> All of a sudden I felt my strength was leaving me. I stopped 
talking. 
> I felt a shiver in my back, I felt my cheeks going hollow. I began 
to 
> stare and the trembling came back on again."
> 
> 
> As Debbie hands back the book Charis smiles proudly out at 
> her. "There. See? Now surely you're not going to argue that a train 
> whistle sounds more like a Five—Nine blasting into the ground ahead 
> than an indefinable wail does to the sound of Crucioed wizards, are 
> you?"
> 
> 
> Anyway, Charis presses her advantage, lets take a look at Neville's 
> symptoms, shall we? He goes * very white* and spills sausages all 
> over the floor. – obviously all that trembling you realise. And 
> previously, after Moody's Unforgivble lesson Neville is * staring* 
at 
> the wall opposite him. He's hardly able to talk. An unnaturally 
high 
> voice. He's getting confused. He has a wide—eyed, horrified look.
> 
> 
> You know, I'm no way near being an expert on these matters (but 
then 
> again neither is JKR I suspect) But these reactions sound an awful 
> lot like the behaviour of all the shell—shocked soldiers in every 
war 
> book I've ever read from "No News on the Western Front" to "The 
> Divided Sea".

Hmm, I like this argument. It sounds real. It could also explain a 
lot about Neville. Little things trigging off a memory. Being kept in 
a dark dungeon with a scary man in black robes would certainly make 
him uneasy. 
Remember that Harry descibes the room in the Pensive as a dungeon 
with stone walls and no windows, and where does Neville have potions? 
The dungeon which has no windows and is cold and gloomy. He 
associates Snape with the room and hence is scared of him (sorry 
guys, no big Snape Bang.) Where as herbology is warm, outside and 
with plants. There is something very "safe" about plants, almost 
comforting, again, comparing it to some of the soliders in the first 
world war who took up hobbies that meant that they would have to 
concentrate on something else (anyone read/seen Longitude? I would 
quote it but I don't have it here) that needs care. It could be the 
same for Neville. 

It may help to understand his family as well which is where I am 
having problems, they seem to be assuming that he is over it but he's 
not, or doing what they think is best, I could be wrong (most 
likly... *side note* just to add to the evil Gran, why didn't she 
want to go the world cup?). 
BTW, what side of the family is Gran on? I can't find any reference 
in the books to say that it is his dad's mum.

 
> "Neville," Charis concludes happily closing the book with a 
> snap, "has Post—Traumatic Stress Disorder! He's Spell—Shocked."
> 
> 
> Sooooo, every loud noise makes his mind leap automatically to the 
> Cruciatus. He can't help it. And especially after that nice little 
> reminder of his parents torment courtesy of Monsieur Crouch which 
> made all those old memories resurface with a vengeance.

Which could explain his "cowardice and clumsiness" quite a fair bit.

But what if he wasn't there?

As for the egg, personally I think we're going a bit too deep into 
this. It's like a stink bomb, some would say, it's smells like 
someone has let off, another would say it smells like rotten eggs, 
some say rubbish e.t.c.

Avery, er, I'm confused, where are all of the theories coming from. 
Why not Nott or anyone else, I don't understand why it has to be 
Avery.

Mrs Lestrange. Sirus knows that she's still there and has said so 
unless he is evil as well.
Although, I do find it a bit weird that if Mrs Figg is a witch, why 
doesn't she go to get the leg fixed at St Mungos? They would have it 
done in a moment.

Dogberry
*sitting on the sunny theory bay enjoying freedom*