The wizarding world and the world wars
jastrangfeld
msbonsai at mninter.net
Mon Nov 4 18:00:54 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 46066
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "c_voth312" <divaclv at a...> wrote:
>
> And somehow, I doubt it's coincidence. Also, I'm not very good
with
> name origins but "Grindewald" sounds like it might be German in
> origin. Could it be there was a "Wizard World War" paralleling the
> conflict in the Muggle world? Was Hitler's rise to power due, in
> part, to having a dark wizard on his payroll? Some things to
> consider.
>
> ~Christi
Hmm. Well you peeked my interest, so I did some research. I hope
I'm not doing something wrong by posting the quotes I found:
http://www.wizardwords.net/
"Grindelwald is the name of a ski resort in Switzerland. Grendel is
the monster defeated by Beowulf in the Old English epic poem. Wald is
German for forest."
http://hpprogs.blogspot.com/2002_09_01_hpprogs_archive.html
""Dumbledore is particularly famous for his defeat of the dark wizard
Grindelwald in 1945."
How is this important? A quick check of the Harry Potter timeline
puts 1945 about the time when Tom Riddle was at Hogwarts, or was to
have graduated. Dumbledore at the time was teaching at the school,
under the able administration of Professor Dippet. This means that,
while still a young wizard, Dumbledore defeated a presumably powerful
evil wizard. No wonder Dumbledore is the only wizard that Voldemort
is afraid of! But my point is this: Dumbledore has had his time,
fought his battles and won his wars. He is now older, and it is time
to pass on to the next generation the burden of protecting the world
from evil. Dumbledore's (like Gandalf's after the destruction of the
Ring) time has passed. It is time for a new hero to emerge, or for
all to be lost.
Of course, just because he is dead, doesnt mean he wont help out at
all. I think that we will see some posthumous pointers from a spirit
version of Dumbledore, a la Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Another hint: Hagrid, at the end of Book 4 says, "Great man,
Dumbledore. `S long as we've got him, I'm not too worried." Could it
be any clearer than that? You can kiss your Dumbledore goodbye.
So say the signs! We shall see!
Prognosticated Tuesday, September 03, 2002 by Greg Gershman"
As for helping Hitler, well we do know that Hitler was Austrian, and
therefore by German law of the time should never have been allowed to
be elected to the status he was elected to. They had the law changed
to allow him to become what he became.
Previous messages which discussed this: 1148, 1771, 5008, 5021.
Julie
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