Some interesting notes on the legend of the Phoenix & Santa Claus

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No: HPFGUIDX 46315

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "revanto" <revanto at y...> wrote:
Revanto:
> Actually, alot of myths are based on reality. The myth of Santa 
> Claus, Santa Claus is 
> basically a creation of Coca Cola from an old (real) story of a 
> generous man.

Me:
I'm not sure where you get your historical information . . . but you 
need to know just how old the legend really is!

On May 8, 1886, Atlanta druggist Dr. John Stith Pemberton (former 
Confederate officer) invented "Coca-Cola" syrup
http://www2.netdoor.com/~davidroy/cocacola.html

This Dutch-American Saint Nick achieved his fully Americanized form 
in 1823 in the poem A Visit From Saint Nicholas more commonly known 
as The Night Before Christmas by writer Clement Clarke Moore.
http://www.the-north-pole.com/history/

We won't even mention the 1773 date in that link ;o)

Revanto:
> The phoenix in a sense is symbolism for recreation in the early 
> days > of humanity. There are references in the Bible of recreation 
> littered > around. 

Me:
Yes, but most of them are referring to Christ being reborn, the 
resurrection of the scattered and smashed state of Isreal.  But I 
won't get into this, because it would be incredibly long.

Revanto: 
> I really don't want to link religion into this book because I 
> believe > it doesn't have a right to be there. But alot of the 
resources JK > has > drawn from does have a crumb of reality in there.

Me:
And again, I can't say as I completely agree with you, especially 
from some of the things JKR has said.

I'm also wondering.  You said you think Voldemort would stay where he 
is strongest.  Do you mean where his support is strongest?  I'm not 
so certain that Voldemort is entirely without support in other areas 
of the world.  And if you're referring to his physical health, I 
think he's pretty strong now.

Just my opinions :o)

Julie