Some interesting notes on the legend of the Phoenix & Santa Claus

[revanto]

No: HPFGUIDX 46359


> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., "revanto" <revanto at y...> wrote
> Revanto::
> > Actually, alot of myths are based on reality. The myth of Santa 
> > Claus, Santa Claus is 
> > basically a creation of Coca Cola from an old (real) story of a 
> > generous man.
> 
> Me:
> I'm not sure where you get your historical information . . . but 
you 
> need to know just how old the legend really is!

My apologies on this. I tend to skip things when I write but what I 
meant to say is that they used the story of Saint Nick to their 
advantage. According to Russian Myth, he wore purple not red.

> Revanto:
> > The phoenix in a sense is symbolism for recreation in the early 
> > days > of humanity. There are references in the Bible of 
recreation 
> > littered > around. 
> 
> Me:
> Yes, but most of them are referring to Christ being reborn, the 
> resurrection of the scattered and smashed state of Isreal.  But I 
> won't get into this, because it would be incredibly long.

Yes, but Christ was recreated in the same way. Wait, are you saying 
that the legend of the phoenix relates to the ressurection of Israel? 
I'm confused. Can you clear up this passage for me, please?
Wait, I see. No, there was reference in Genesis (Not direct but Eve 
created from the matter of Adam's rib. Poetic but you get the idea.) 
and also in Ezekiel (37) when Yahweh created a man from bones. It's 
process that we're going to able to do one day. We're just kind of 
primitive at it.

> 
> Revanto: 
> > I really don't want to link religion into this book because I 
> > believe > it doesn't have a right to be there. But alot of the 
> resources JK > has > drawn from does have a crumb of reality in 
there.
> 
> Me:
> And again, I can't say as I completely agree with you, especially 
> from some of the things JKR has said.

Yes, there are similarites and parallels to religion (Not just 
christianity) but it shouldn't be absorbed within the religion. It's 
funny how I see news articles with the church either embracing HP or 
condemning it. (Note: There is the middle ground people which accept 
HP but don't tangle it within their religion.) The ones condemning it 
don't wan't others to read it (like they have the right to do that) 
and the ones the embrace it can use it in their teachings more as a 
publicity thing. Basically, it shows me that they don't have enough 
faith in their own religion. If they did have enough faith then they 
would know that there is no threat and have nothing to worry about.

JK Rowling's books are fiction whereas religious texts are history 
books written by a primitive mentality.

> 
> I'm also wondering.  You said you think Voldemort would stay where 
he 
> is strongest.  Do you mean where his support is strongest?  I'm not 
> so certain that Voldemort is entirely without support in other 
areas 
> of the world.  And if you're referring to his physical health, I 
> think he's pretty strong now.
> 
> Just my opinions :o)
> 
> Julie

I'm just guessing that he would have more support where he hangs 
around the most. I imagine he hangs around England and Europe but 
that's just my opinion.

Revanto
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