[HPforGrownups] Re: Re: Lucius and the Diary
Audra1976 at aol.com
Audra1976 at aol.com
Sat Nov 16 04:29:38 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 46664
In a message dated 11/15/02 10:38:45 PM, kaityf at jorsm.com writes:
<< And if I remember correctly (a big "if"), Riddle first learns about
the great Harry Potter through Ginny. Riddle also says that his original
goal had been to get rid of the mudbloods at Hogwarts, but after learning
about Harry from Ginny, he changed his goal to getting rid of him. So why
was Harry in danger? Why did Dobby want Harry to stay away from Hogwarts
that year? Was the goal to get rid of mudbloods first and then half bloods?
<snip>
Why that year? >>
Me:
To me, Dobby's warning Harry shows that Dobby:
1.) knew of Lucius's plan to plant the get the diary into Hogwarts, and
2.) knew that the diary contained the essence of Tom Riddle who would someday
become Voldemort (his hint "not He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named" implies Voldemort
before he was Voldemort), and
3.) knew that Voldemort tried to kill Harry
and that's why he warned Harry that he was in danger and to stay away from
Hogwarts.
Lucius at least knew how the diary worked, even if he didn't write to
Diary!Tom and explain his plans. I believe Lucius planned on Diary!Tom
learning about Harry and coming after him. Diary!Tom does say that he
learned about Harry's history from Ginny, and since he planned on killing
Harry, he didn't really have any reason to lie to him. If Lucius had told
him about Harry, I think he would have stated so.
Diary!Tom says:
"`My diary. Little Ginny's been writing in it for
months and months, telling me all her pitiful worries and woes - how
her brothers tease her, how she had to come to school with
secondhand robes and books, how" -Riddle's eyes glinted "how she
didn't think famous, good, great Harry Potter would ever like her . . . ."
"Ginny poured out her soul to me, and her soul happened to
be exactly what I wanted .... I grew stronger and stronger on a diet of
her deepest fears, her darkest secrets."
This says to me that Diary!Tom was sort of in a dormant state until Ginny
began writing to him, and the first thing Ginny told him was about Harry. He
goes on to say:
"..Ginny told me all about you, Harry," said Riddle. "Your
whole fascinating history. " His eyes roved over the lightning scar on
Harry's forehead, and their expression grew hungrier. "I knew I must
find out more about you, talk to you, meet you if I could."
ORIGINALLY, back 50 years ago, Tom created the diary to open the Chamber
again and rid the school of muggle-borns:
"I decided to leave
behind a diary, preserving my sixteen-year-old self in its pages, so that
one day, with luck, I would be able to lead another in my footsteps, and
finish Salazar Slytherin's noble work."
"Well, you haven't finished it," said Harry triumphantly. "No one's died
this time, not even the cat. In a few hours the Mandrake Draught will
be ready and everyone who was Petrified will be all right again -"
BUT, Diary!Tom of CoS's main goal was to confront Harry, just as Lucius
suspected he would:
"Haven't I already told you," said Riddle quietly, "that killing Mudbloods
doesn't matter to me anymore? For many months now, my new target
has been -you."
Audra
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