Sharing blood (Re: Key points in CoS)

[Risti]

No: HPFGUIDX 46697

> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., Iris FT <iris_ft at y...> wrote:
> > What I would like to debate is the possibility of adulterine or
> incestuous relationship in Harry's bloodline. That would explain why
> hair and eyes are so important in the description of the most
> important characters of the story.

....

> > Two bloodlines, a legitimate one and an illegitimate 
one. ... ... ...

(me)
I personally find this idea really intriguing because of the depth 
that it adds to the idea of founders and heirs.  I agree with you 
that the Magical bloodlines must have been somewhat incestuous at 
some point to mirror the aristocratic blood lines of Europe 
throughout history.  There's also the fact that there are only so 
many wizarding families, and only so much contact between wizards and 
muggles.

> bboy_mn
> 
> Unless I misunderstood you, wouldn't that give Harry the bloodline 
of
> THREE of the founders of Hogwarts; Gryffindor, Slytherin, and 
Hufflepuff?
> 
> Too bad there isn't a way to integrate Ravenclaw into this theory,
> that would give him the bloodlines of all four founders. Something
> like the daughter of Ravenclaw marrying the son of
> Gryffindor/Hufflepuff and their daughter marries the son of 
Slytherin. 
> 
> just a thought.
> 
> bboy_mn

Ah ha, while we may not have the background for it, a thought popped 
into my mind while reading over this idea.

'Hmm," said a small voice in his ear. "Difficult.  Very difficult.  
Plenty of courage, I see.  Not a bad mind, either.  There's talent, 
oh my goodness yes - and a thirst to prove yourself, now that's 
interesting ... So where shall I put you?'...'Not Slytherin, eh?' 
said the samll voice. 'Are you sure? You could be great, you know, 
it's all here in your head, and Slytherin will help you on the way to 
greatness, no doubt about that - no? Well, if you're sure - better be 
GRYFFINDOR!'
(PS, paperback, pg 90-91)

The famous Sorting Hat quote.  Now, obviously, as we all know, the 
sorting hat had a hard time placing Harry.  Many assume that this is 
because Harry brought up the 'Not Slytherin' bit that I cut from the 
above quote.  However, as you may note by seeing what the sorting hat 
says apart from that, it was having a hard time placing Harry before 
Harry ever brought up Slytherin.

'Plenty of courage' - Obviously a Gryffindor attribute.

'Not a bad mind, either' - Here we're seeing the Ravenclaw attributes.

'There's talent, oh my goodness yes' - Any of the houses, but keep 
this in mind as a key ingredient for 'greatness'

'A thirst to prove yourself' - I'm going to go out on a limb here, 
and say that this is an attribute of Hufflepuff.  I know that many 
think that it is Slytherin, but Slytherin's are known for ambition, 
which is usually motivated by personal, internal goals.  When someone 
wants to prove themselves, however, it tends to be that they want to 
prove themselves to others.  Hufflepuffs are known for being hard 
workers.  Quite often those who work the hardest are the ones who 
want to prove themselves the most.  They may not have the ambition to 
move to be the president of the company, but they are going to work 
as hard as they can to prove that they are the best layworker out 
there that you can find.

At this point, Harry interupts the hat with his thoughts about 
Slytherin.  I think that it is at this point that the hat refines 
it's earlier musings about talent into the comment of 'you could be 
great, you know'.

In the end, Harry makes his choice, and we see the theme of choice 
over fate come out again.

So the point of this discussion?  As much as the thoughts of Harry 
being the ultimate heir brings up visions of poorly written fan 
fiction, there could actually be canon support for it, other then the 
physical features aspect.

Back to those, however.

I like Godric having red hair.  Especially since I've always been a 
fan of the 'connect the red heads' theory(Lily, Dumbledore, the 
Weasley's...)

I can see Salazer Slytherin having green eyes.  As there has been 
alot of talk about magic ability within eyes, remember the fact that 
from what we've seen, evil magic has a green light.

While I've always imagined Helga to be blond, and Rowena to 
be 'raven' haired, I suppose it is possible that Helga has black 
hair.  Maybe both of them did, and that's why so many people in the 
magical community have black hair.

However, as fun as all this musing is, I feel I have to bring up one 
thing.  These four were the founders of Hogwarts, but not the 
founders of magic within Britain.  Salazer Slytherin was not the 
first evil wizard to exist, and Godric certainly was not the first 
hero.  Perhaps, if people listened to Professor Binn's lessons more 
often, we'd discover that there is actually a richer history that 
predates Hogwarts that JKR has yet to tap into.

~Risti