(Out of TBAY) Snape & Voldemort (was Assassin!Snape, etc)

[wynnde1 at aol.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 46974

Uh oh. I think I'm getting my self in deeper than I'd intended . . . it seems 
that a few people hanging out at the tavern are now thinking of me as the 
resident Snape/Voldemort shipper.

NO NO NO NO NO! Argh. That's not what I meant at all when I wrote:

>"You see, I have this whole scenario in mind as to why Snape joined the 
Death 
>Eaters in the first place . . . Snape was in the market for a substitute 
father figure >and was therefore susceptible to Voldemort's charisma. And 
Voldemort, if we give >him credit for being a *real* evil overlord, and not 
just a plot device, might 
>have been inclined to take advantage of young Severus in a very specific way 
. . . >Would teenage Snape have had the ability to defend himself against the 
certiainly >very forceful attentions of this older man?"

And, regarding Voldmort taking Snape back as a DE: 

>"But maybe it's all more *personal* than that. Maybe Voldemort has a vested >
interest in wanting to believe Snape couldn't have betrayed him because Snape 
was >always one of his very *favourites*. I won't go so far as to credit 
Voldemort with >actual feelings of love, but maybe as close to that as an 
Evil Overlord can get. He's >just *fond* of Snape in a very particular way 
and would do just about anything to >believe that Snape couldn't possibly 
have betrayed him.

> It gives us a credible reason for Snape joining Voldemort in the first 
place which >doesn't involve him being just plain old evil. Plus, it give us 
a reason to believe that >Snape returning to Voldemort wouldn't just be a 
suicide mission."

To which Judy leaped up and gasped in shock.  

>" Voldemort/Snape shipper in the Tavern?  

And Eliose wrote:

>Snape's playing for high stakes and Voldemort 
>knows it. If he doubts him, suspects he's been planted by Dumbledore, he 
>might very well expect him to consent to almost *anything* in order to prove 

>his loyalty. *Almost*, Wendy. No, I don't even want to *think* about it. In 
>fact, I especially don't want to think about it.

Now me again:

My comments were in no way meant to suggest a Snape/Voldemort SHIP. Notice 
that I wrote that Severus might not have been able to defend himself against 
Voldemort's attentions - implying that he would *not* have chosen nor wanted 
those attentions, but didn't have had the strength of will or worldliness or 
whatever to know how to refuse. 

This is SexuallyExploitedTeenage!Snape. The theory is simply meant to offer 
an explanation for why Voldemort might be inclined to accept Snape back as a 
Death Eater, and not just AK him on sight, because VOLDEMORT has always had 
warm feelings for Snape. I never meant to imply that Snape returned these 
feelings in any way. I'm not saying Snape has *warm* feelings for Voldemort 
now, or did have at any point in the past. If this theory were to be true, it 
would probably be quite the opposite. I don't know how children who are 
abused in this sort of way feel about their abusers once they become adults. 
But in any case IT'S NOT A SHIP! - it's the football coach who seduces one of 
the boys on the team that he coaches. Or the priest/altarboy thing. Sure, 
sometimes the boy in question goes along with it - but it's still abuse and 
exploitation. I was talking about abuse of an underage Snape, not a 
consentual adult relationship. 

I did mention that it offered a reason for Snape to have joined the Death 
Eaters without being truly evil, and I can see how that might sound as though 
Snape was a willing and eager participant in the whole thing. I didn't mean 
it that way, and as Eileen pointed out,  Voldemort was exploiting the young 
Death Eater recruits, whether they were being *sexually* exploited or not 
(presuming they were, indeed teenage at the time of recruitment). 

And, I'm quite willing to admit that it's very unlikely to be canonically 
true. I said this in my original post, too. But there are lots of other 
things discussed here which are also unlikely to be canonically true. So I 
didn't think that was a reason not to propose it. <g> 

So please don't think of me as a Snape/Voldemort shipper. That thought makes 
me feel VERY ill! Sure, I'm admittedly bent, but the thought of Snape in love 
with Voldemort is WELL beyond where I am willing to go! <G>

Wendy
(Who *really* doesn't want to be thought of as the most bent person in the 
Bay. I'm really very nice once you get to know me! I just don't squick very 
easily. <g>)


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