Voices from the past (Re: [HPforGrownups] Snape and the Potters)

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No: HPFGUIDX 47177

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Indigo" <indigo at i...> wrote:

> 
> 4) We know from priori incantatem that Lily and James were together 
> and were killed one right after the other [even if there's some 
> question as to the order. They died within minutes or seconds of 
each 
> other]. 

I'd be willing to argue against that last statement: all that Priori 
Incantem tells us is that James died before Lily (Since that whole 
mess was admitted as a mistake and has been altered in later 
editions) After all, Cedric, Frank and Bertha Jonkins were killed 13 
years after the deaths of Lily and James and there was no mentioned 
difference in the times and pauses between their shadow's appearances 
and those of Lily and James'. Personally, I believe that they died 
within seconds to minutes of each other and that it was James' voice 
that Harry hears in the Dementor memory...but all that Priori 
Incantem tells us is that Voldemort casted no other spells between 
the time he killed James and that he killed Lily.  

I find it entirely plausible for Snape to have been there the night 
that Lily and James died...if not a bit of a stretch in cannon. 
However, it's a nice explanation for Harry's dream. 


"Perhaps Harry had eaten a bit too much, because he had a very 
strange dream. He was wearing Professor Quirrell's turban, which kept 
talking to him, telling him that he must transfer to Slytherin at 
once, because it was his destiny. Harry told the turban that he 
didn't want to be in Slytherin; it got heavier and heavier; he tried 
to pull it off but it tightened painfully-- and there was Malfoy 
laughing at him as he struggled with it-- then Malfoy turned into the 
hook-nosed teacher, Snape, whose laugh became high and cold-- there 
was a burst of green light and Harry woke, sweating and shaking." 


Even still, I see it as a bit of stretch...The dream can be 
interpreted anyway one chooses it to (as can the rest of 
cannon)...The most obvious foreshadowing was that of Quirrell's 
turban, since we know who that is...but what I find interesting is 
that he says it's Harry's destiny and that the more Harry rejects the 
idea, the heavier and more painful his load becomes. Heck, we could 
interpret that as that Harry is the heir of Slytherin or somesuch 
great thing, or just compare it to Harry's journey so forth (we know 
things will get darker as the series progresses)...or that he will be 
a tragic hero- cue the green light at the end of the dream. Reading 
it again, I see Draco being there for the sheer prospect of 
being...well, a Malfoy. Laughing while Potter struggles. Snape, well, 
we still don't quite know his part just yet, other then that he hates 
James, he was a death eater double agent who has apparently 
turned 'good' guy...for all we know he could be laughing in the dream 
because he's seeing the irony in Harry suspecting him in the future, 
yet it being Quirrell's turban so tightly bound to his head....and oh 
dear, I'm rambling. 

The thing is that sometimes a dream is just a dream, not a memory or 
prophecy or foreshadowing....perhaps Harry just ate some funny 
treacle pudding at dinner the night before, eh? ;-D

Jess,
Ever Incurably Bumbling and Rambling