Dementors Helping the DEs and the Two Franks (WAS: Dementors' Kiss)

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No: HPFGUIDX 47445

Marcia writes :
> This puts me in a bit of a bad situation – I am not really a
big 
> supporter of the Fudge is evil camp, believing instead that his 
> purpose is to illustrate what happens when good men do nothing.  
> However, I'm cautiously coming to realize that Fudge must either be 
> evil or incredibly stupid.
> GOF The Death Eaters p.564
> `The Lestranges should stand here,' said Voldemort quietly.

<snip 
> some of V's speech> 
The Dementors will join us
they are
our 
natural 
> allies 
> GOF The Parting of the Ways p.614
> `The rest of us sleep less soundly in our beds, Cornelius, knowing 
> that you have put Lord Voldemort's most dangerous supporters in the 
> care of creatures who will join him the instant he asks them!' said 
> Dumbledore.
> 
> What these references tell me, is that both Dumbledore and 
Voldemort 
> consider the Dementors to be on Voldemort's side and perhaps more 
> importantly that, Fudge was responsible for placing them at 
Azkaban.  
> if Fudge is a DE, what better morsel of good DE deed could he offer 
> Voldemort than to be able to say `Ok I know I didn't come looking 
for 
> you, but hey – I was looking out for the faithful DEs but
placing 
the 
> Dementors at Azkaban.'  I also find it disturbing that Fudge was 
able 
> to very quickly summon a dementor to Hogwarts "for protection" when 
> interviewing ([sic] as no interview actually took place between 
Fudge 
> and Crouch Jr.).  So I guess that's it – I am stating for the 
record 
> that The Ministry and Fudge did in fact know the risks associated 
> with putting the Dementors in charge of Azkaban and they went ahead 
> and did it anyway. 

Voldemort states in GOF that the dementors "will join us" implying 
that they haven't been allies in the past. I believe it's possible 
that there had been some contact between V and the dementors during 
his first reign of terror and that there could have been ongoing 
negotions during V's absence. Voldemort knows many of his most loyal 
followers went to Azkaban rather than renounce him. When he states in 
GOF pb ed. pgs. 650-651 that "the Lestranges will be honored beyond 
their dreams" he clearly expects them to be in a condition to accept 
these honors.  Sirius has stated how most people go mad and many lose 
the will to live and starve themselves.  I have a feeling the DE in 
touch with the dementors (Lucius Malfoy, Evil Fudge?) worked a deal 
that the dementors would go easy of V's supporters in exchange for 
many tasty souls once Voldemort came back.

I also have a theory* that Barty Crouch wasn't Kissed by the 
dementor; there was a plan worked out in advance that if he was 
exposed any dementor that reached him would fake the Kiss. We don't 
see it, we only have McGonagall and Fudge's view, and Crouch's face 
would have been hidden by the dementor's hood when it leaned down.  I 
admit it's unlikely, but I like the idea of a nonKissed Crouch 
escaping from Azkaban or St. Mungo's (where do they keep the 
Kissed?), and taking everyone by surprise in a future book.

Marcia also states that she is coming to believe in Evil Fudge or 
incredibly stupid Fudge.  I think he might be Imperius controlled 
Fudge. If it was done by someone in close contact with him for years, 
like Malfoy, it could be very low level, not making him do unusual 
things, but perhaps influencing him to follow his worse instincts.  
Putting the dementors in charge of Azkaban, for example, because it 
plays on his fears of the DE's there, and bringing a dementor into 
the school for protection. Malfoy could be strengthening a natural 
inclination to stick his head in the sand about Voldemort by having 
him resist any proof Dumbledore offers about V's return.

Donna

*I believe it is my theory, not having read it anywhere that I know 
of, though realizing with the amount of posts here probably anything 
I think of has been written here already.  If so, I apologize for 
taking it as my own.