[HPforGrownups] Re: Sorting Hat/ Voldemort's compitence/ Request for opinions

[Richelle Votaw]

No: HPFGUIDX 44722


> Pippin Continues:
> > I have a new theory about the Hat. Its task is "to educate young
> > sorcerers."  I think  it initially offers each student  the House
> > where he/she will learn the most magic. The Hat never promises
> > that it will put you in the House where you'll be happiest, or even
> > where you'll find your friends. It only says, "perhaps."

I noticed something in the GoF sorting hat song that hadn't really stood out
before.  The sorting hat says "I've never yet been wrong."  Does this imply
that the hat will make a mistake?  But it hasn't yet, or at least not one
that's come out into the open.

psychodudeneo wrote:

> Take for example, the end scene of GoF.  Voldemort makes what will
> probably turn out to be the greatest mistake of his career.  He gives
> Harry a fighting chance.
>
> I'm sure the assembled Death Eaters were thinking the same thing I
> was.
>
> "Wow.  What an idiot."
>
> This is similar to the way traditional villains capture the hero and
> place him in a cell somewhere with one inept guard to make sure they
> don't escape.  It's blatant stupidity.

Ah, but he couldn't face a wandless Harry. Because that can't happen until
the truth about Harry's (and Lily's) eyes comes out.  Which I believe will
be that they can do magic with their eyes.  A more focused magic than
ordinary witches/wizards can without wands.  Perhaps more powerful.  There
is a JKR quote to back this up, by the way, it didn't just pop into my head.

>From a BBC interview:

BBC: Now, can I ask you: are there any special wizarding powers in your
world that depend on the wizard using their eyes to do something?  Bit like
. . .

JKR: Why do you want to know this?

BBC: I just vaguely wondered.

JKR: Why?

BBC: Well because everyone always goes on about how Harry's got Lily
Potter's eyes?

JKR: Aren't you smart?  There is something, maybe, coming about that.  I'm
going to say no more.  Very clever.

So in my opinion, Voldemort won't be stupid enough to have Harry disarmed
and then give him back his wand again.  But I don't really think they will
meet again until the final confrontation in book 7.  Plenty of DE's, yes,
Voldemort, no.  Possibly a brief encounter in book 6, not sure.  But when it
all comes down in Book 7, if Voldemort does get Harry's wand away from him,
I don't think he'll give it back.  But then there's those
eyes . . .

MarEprhaim writes:

> One of the more prevalent predictions in the OoP Predictions Derby
> is that the more oft noted beloved of Harry who will die in Book 5
> is Ron (other top contender, Hagrid). As Ron has always been the

Well, I definitely say that it'll be Hagrid in book 5.  You know, in GoF it
even says something about deep affection for Hagrid.  Mmhmm, he's a goner.

> Would any of those who believe that Ron will die in the next (or
> future) book(s) care to comment on why they think this is so?

I think he is the most likely to die, but not until the final book.

> Also, has anyone picked up any evidence from canon or otherwise that
> would support this possibility?

Sure, Ron's constant willingness to sacrifice himself for the good of
mankind.  Okay, at least so that Harry can continue on.  Ron knows (even
though he's jealous sometimes) that Harry is special, and has something
inside that he will never be able to match.

"bohcoo" writes:

> It struck me as I reread the books that Rowling has been
> foreshadowing the ending of the Harry Potter series all the way
> through the books:  Unfortunately, I think she is going to have Harry
> awake from a dream, at the age of 17 or 18, living with the Dursleys -
> - with a thought that he had just had some incredible, fantastic
> dream. And then he will set about his life, as an ordinary person.
> That way, we won't have to wonder what happened to everyone
> throughout the years to come, and so on.

I don't think she'll do this, though I admit it is a possibility.  But what
fun is a book series if when it ends it is simply over?  It would be a cruel
joke played on the rest of the world.  "Gotcha, you thought this boy really
had quite an adventure didn't you?  Guess what, it was just a dream!  Ha
ha!"  Nope, can't do that to the readers who have so FAITHFULLY waited for
these books.  I do think there is the slightest possibility that Harry could
wake up in the cupboard, still at the age of eleven, go to the door to get
the mail, flip through it, and find a letter addressed to "Mr. Harry Potter,
the cupboard under the stairs."  Turn it over, Hogwarts seal on the back.
So, was it all prophetic?  Will it come true?  Will it be different now?
Hmm?

Just to throw this in, I most of all do not think JKR will kill Harry.
Simply because she keeps implying that she might.  And that's not like her
to point you at things she's aiming for.  So I think she's trying to throw
us off.

Richelle

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