Prefects/which floor?/Cho/Vold+Lucius/what is OotP?/V+Lily/Right-Easy/Class

[Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)]

No: HPFGUIDX 45588

Fyre Wood wrote:

<< From what I've read, it looks as though 1-2 students are chosen 
from each House to become a prefect. >>

The list has come up with many theories of how many Prefects there 
are at Hogwarts. I go with the theory that there are 6 Prefects per 
House (the Head Boy and Head Girl are included in that count): one 
girl and one boy from each of fifth, sixth, and seventh year. One 
problem with this theory is that Mrs. Weasley seemed to have expected 
both Fred and George to become Prefects, but the theory could be 
saved by suggesting that the authorities (House Master, Headmaster, 
or entire Faculty Senate, whoever chooses the Prefects) make an 
exception for twins. I think that if the Gryffindor Prefects are 
chosen by McGonagall, she will choose Harry and Hermione (they're her 
pets as well as having the best resumEs) but if Dumbledore chooses, 
he might well choose Neville as boy Prefect in an attempt to bring 
out his hidden leadership qualities.

Richard GulPlum wrote:

<< It's important that the teachers (Head of House in particular) 
trust the Prefects, so a (relatively) clean sheet in terms of 
misbehaving or breaking school rules is required. >>

Being the known as one of the biggest troublemakers in at least a 
generation didn't stop James Potter from being made Prefect.

Steve bboy_mn wrote:

<< So is that bathroom on the ground floor, second floor, or third 
floor? >>

I feel that the numbering of the floors of Hogwarts Castle is 
somewhat arbitrary: I imagine that Hogwarts Castle is built *in* a 
hillside, so on the high side of the hill (I think it is a cliff 
beside the lake, with a cave in it for the first-years's boats to 
enter) one particular floor is many layers underground, but that same 
floor is surface-level on the other side where the ground is lower.

Steve bboy_mn:

<<  We have a pretty Asian girl. It's safe to assume she is not a 
tall, blue eyed, blond, pretty Asian girl. >>

The description when Harry first met Cho said she was even shorter 
than Harry, so not being tall is part of canon. I don't recall if 
there is any canon for her having black hair. 

JOdel wrote:

<< In Goblet, Voldemort's coldness toward his "slippery friend" 
Lucius >>

What you saw as coldness, I saw as affection -- fondly forgiving 
Lucius for the same offenses for which he was punishing the others.

Vinnia wrote:

<< I believe in book 5, Harry would face Voldemort once again, and 
the very thing that saves Harry would be the fact that his phoenix 
feather is from a different lifecycle with Voldemort's. Hence the 
order of phoenix effect. >>

I think that is a new idea, and I think it is possible.

K-Lo wrote:
<< Why not just kill her outright, instead of as a last resort so he 
could get to Harry? What was important about Lily that he gave her a 
choice to 'stand aside'? >>

A number of theories with such names as EWW, Even EWWer, So EWWer 
it's in the sewer, and Too EWW to be trEWW attempt to answer this 
question, by supposing that Lily was to kept alive to be given to 
someone as a concubine. someone's harem. The least gross is that 
Severus was in love with Lily all along (or was her brother); when 
he learned that Voldemort planned to kill all three Potters, he 
attempted to save Lily by asking Voldemort to give him Lily as a 
present, and Voldemort valued Severus enough to generously promise 
that he would keep Lily alive as Sevvie's slave IF she didn't 
interfere with him killing her son. This theory continues: Sevvie 
knew Lily too well to think she'd ever stand aside to let her child 
be killed, so his next attempt to save her was that he turned traitor 
against Voldemort and spy for Dumbledore.

Next, that Peter was in love with Lily all along, and was recruited 
to spy for Voldemort by the promise of being given Lily as reward. 
The grossest is that the prophecy that caused all this fuss stated 
that Lily's son would win the war for his father's side, so Voldemort 
planned to force Lily to bear him a son.

Rita Potter wrote:

<< Nothing dramatic, but what if that bit of info would implicate 
your friend in a crime? Or just mean that said friend is cheating on 
his/her partner? What is 'easy' and what is 'right' in this case? To 
keep one's mouth shut is definitely easy, while to spill the beans 
is, on one hand, to do the right thing but, on the other, to betray 
your friend. >>

I'm not so sure which is the 'easy' and which is the 'right' behavior 
in your example. Suppose your friend's crime was a Good act against 
an Evil government (foreign conquerors) and the Evil government was 
interrogating you with all kinds of realistic threats of how you 
would be punished if they later discovered that you had borne false 
witness to them?

Sydney wrote of Stan Shunpike:

<< as far as I can tell the only evidence advanced that he DIDN'T go 
to Hogwarts, is that of his broad London cockney. >>

His accent should be evidence that he is Muggle-born, not that he is 
lower-class in the wizarding world. I was thinking about wizarding 
folks's accents last week, and it occured to me that all the wizard- 
born wizards of Britain should have the *same* accent, regardless if 
they are as pedigreed and powerful as the Malfoys or as lowly as 
Filch, because we are discussing a community of only 20,000 people, 
whom JKR said all go to the same school (Hogwarts), and who all shop 
in the same two shopping districts, Diagon Alley and Hogsmeade. They 
mostly don't spend so much time with Muggles that they would pick up 
the accent of Muggles who live in the same geographic area (so much 
for those lovely Scots accents in Barb's HP & ToGI!), so why would 
they pick up the accents of Muggles of their equivalent social class? 

I'm sure that JKR made a deliberate point of Muggle social class not 
mattering to the wizard class system by putting Colin Creevey the 
milkman's son into Gryffindor and Justin Finch-Fletchly, who was down 
for Eton, into Hufflepuff. (Thank you, GulPlum, for mentioning this in 
#45505: "Incidentally, some may not be aware of this, but the 
"milkman" is the archetypal English bottom-of-the-ladder in terms of 
social standing, wealth and any other class indicator one can 
mention.") 

Then she messed up by using the Muggle indicators of Muggle social 
class to portray the wizard social class of characters like the 
Malfoys, but that has to be a literary convention, like the movie of 
"Spartacus" with the Brit actors and their lovely accents as Roman 
aristocrats and the Yank actors as rebellious slaves. No one *really* 
believes that the aristocrat accent of Ancient Rome was the *same* as 
the aristocratic accent of twentieth century Britain!

Poo, Ali already said all this better! #45557