Harry and the Phoenix

[the_air_vents_of_abduction]

No: HPFGUIDX 43534

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "doffy99" <doffy99 at y...> wrote:

> My Theory:
> 
> As everyone is guessing, Trelawney made the prediction. 
Possibly 
> while in school, at Hogwarts, with Tom Riddle. (She was the 
Lavender 
> Brown of her day. Worshipped her Divination teacher) The 
Divination 
> teacher was teaching them, Trewlawney, then a student along 
with 
> Riddle, makes this prediction IN CLASS! In front of Riddle. That 
one 
> day, the Hier of Gryffindor would kill the hier of Slytherin. 
> (This leads to MANY many philosophical questions such as 
"Did the 
> Prediction make itself come true?" By predicting it, Tom Riddle 
who 
> knew already he was the heir of Slytherin, realized he HAD to 
turn 
> evil, find the Hier's of Gryffindor and kill them, before they could 
> kill him. A Self fulfilling prophecy) 
> Tom Riddle turns evil so he can assure his own survival by 
killing 
> the heirs of Gryffindor. His entire "War" on the WW was to save 
his 
> own life. He purposely set out to kill the Gryffindor hiers. James 
> and Harry Potter were the last ones. That how James KNEW 
that 
> Voldemort would be coming after him and why he and Lily took 
Harry 
> and went into hiding.
> 
> Sybil Trelawney caused it all. :))
> 

Well, I must begin by saying that there is no irony I love more 
than a self-fulfilling prophecy. 
However, I have problems with the way that doffy has theorised 
this prophecy was proclaimed.
1) Trelawney, according to Dumbledore, has only ever made two 
true predictions; one of which was the one in PoA. Not exactly  a 
sparkling record. Plus there is just something about Voldemort 
that suggests his attitude towards Divination is similar to 
Minerva's; he likes to be in control, not Fate.
2) While Tom Riddle may have been paranoic enough as a 
teenager to take Trelawney seriously, surely,as he became more 
powerful, he would have discarded her prophecy as being 
nonsense, as there were no other true predictions to stablish 
credibility (although he did display some deep-seated urge to kill 
a baby)
3) If Trelawney's current personality is any indication of her 
personality as a child, I don't think anyone would take her too 
seriously.
Ultimately, I see Trelawney's prediction as being something 
other than the" heir of Gryffindor will kill the heir of Slytherin". The 
thing is, Sybil would have only been taken seriously *after* the 
first prediction came true; up until then, she had no reputation or 
precedent for *true* predictions 
The only way I can see her being taken seriously would be if she 
was/ is a Death Eater held in high regard by Voldemort. . . But I 
won't even go into that here . . .

Roo
Avoid air vents at any cost- you never know who might pull you in. 
. . . .