Ginny touched by Vmort...(Harry-Hermione Life Debts)

[doffy99]

No: HPFGUIDX 44306

linda_mccabe wrote:
> How about the life-debts that have been racked up between Harry and 
> Hermione?  Harry and Ron saved Hermione's life from the mountain 
> troll.  Then Hermione helped Snape to save Harry's life from 
> Quirrell's attempt to knock him off his broomstick.
> 
> Later Hermione helped save Harry with the Devil's Snare and the 
> Potions riddle in the hidden dungeons. (She also saved Ron from the 
> Devil's Snare - repaying her debt to him which was promptly 
rewarded 
> by Ron saving both Harry and Hermione with his mastery of chess.)
> 
> Harry then vanquished the Basilisk that had petrified Hermione.  
> This of course aided by information Hermione had clutched in her 
> stone-cold little hands.
> 
> To me it seems like if this is Magic at its most deepest and most 
> powerful that Harry and Hermione have developed strong magical 
bonds 
> between them.  I don't doubt that Ginny and Harry have a bond 
> between them, but I think that the Harry-Hermione magical bonds are 
> much stronger.  (I also think they are stronger than the Ron-
> Hermione magical bonds.)
> 
> It's just a thought.  What if the reciprical and repeated saving of 
> one another causes you to become irrevocably bound to them?  Hmmm.
> 
> Athena
> 
> ****
> "You will have to figure out how to deal with Nadine Henderson 
> across the street though," Arabella said. 
> "Who's she?" asked Sirius. 
> "A single mother in her thirties with a small daughter. She looks
> at any man who's not behind bars or mentally incompetent as a
> potential future husband. That includes married men, I'm afraid. 
> She'll be drooling the moment she sees you." 

I've been reading the posts and I can't help myself but to post.

All these disucussions of "Magical Bonds" raises OTHER questions in 
my mind. There are two ways that I see "Magical Bonds" working.

1) You must save a persons life while that person is in DIRECT mortal 
danger. 
This would mean that Ron saving H&H in the Chess game does not apply. 
Their lives were NOT in direct Mortal danger at the time. Only by 
playing the game did they place themselves in danger. Once they 
started the game, Ron's life was also in danger, so he was, 
basically, saving himself, not them. 
Same with Hermione and the potions. She figured out the puzzle to 
save herself. She just saved Harry in the process.
This also brings into question of Harry Saving Ginny. He did NOT 
fight Tom Riddle to save Ginny. He fought and defeated Riddle because 
his(Harry's) own life was in mortal danger. If he had not killed the 
Basilisk and Riddle, he would have died right along side Ginny.
Hermione did not Save H&R from the plant, she saved herself and 
thereby them in the process. WOuld this count??
Snape saving Harry at the Quidditch match WOULD apply. He had nothing 
to gain by saving harry's life, his (snape's) life was not in danger.

2) That saving another wizards life puts them in your "Debt." (For 
lack of a better word) Whether this is directly or indirectly 
wouldn't matter. This would mean that HH&R ALL have "magical bonds." 
Because at different times they have all saved the others in some 
way, shape or form.

If the second applies, it means that HH&R will ALL come through these 
books on the side of good. I've seen a few posts and posters who 
beleive that Ron will turn evil. If the bonds are really that strong, 
this could NOT happen. 

This is why, I beleive and this is an opinion, the FIRST applies.  
Harry SPARED Pettigrew from certain death with NOTHING to gain. 
Sirius and Lupin were not going to attack Harry by trying to save 
Peter. Harry's life was in no danger. Peter was disamred and injured.
This would also apply to James and Snape, because Jasmes was in 
direct mortal danger By NOT saving Snape. Therefore, putting Snape in 
James debt.
It would also apply to Snape saving Harry at the Quidditch match. 

Going through them, these are the ONLY times, JKR has mentioned 
these "Magical Bonds." I beleive in order for this bond to occur, 
the "saver" must have NOTHING to gain from it. Just my opinion. 
Anyone else??

=Jeff