Color Symbolism, Snape's past

[eloiseherisson at aol.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 44398

daharja at bigpond.net.au writes:

> Eloise wrote:
> 
> << And that red, green, blue and yellow are intended to stand forth
> as simple primary colors (although green isn't really a primary) that
> are distinctive  (snip) So it's not true period heraldry, but more
> symbolic, >>
> 
<Snip rest of post.>

Not guilty! I didn't write that! (I know the attribution of these posts gets 
confusing).
I don't do colour symbolism (actually, you can tell it's not me by the 
American spelling!), or heraldry or alchemy, or Wicca.

I do Snape, Britishisms, Snape, etymology, Snape, British history, Snape, 
hedgehogs and Snape.

Talking of whom,

Rita (welcome Rita!):
>>Eloise:
>>Actually, I wouldn't.
>>I think it's quite likely that she does, but Dumbledore doesn't seem to
>>confide everything in her.
>
>here I agree with kel, I've got a feeling that McG was part of that 'old
>crowd' Dumbl. mentions and I guess that they were bound to know if they had
>a man in such an important position among Vold.'s people. Furthermore, she
>knows everything about Vold's return, as she was in Moody's office when
>Crouch jr 'confessed' and in the Hospital wing when Snape 'comes out' and
>she doesn't say a word to that. If Dumbl. didn't trust her he wouldn't have
>let her stay.

I can't refute that, nor do I wish to. But I don't think it's clear. 
Being a member of 'the old crowd' (if she was) doesn't automatically mean 
that she knows about Snape's past. Sirius and Lupin *are* members of ' the 
old crowd', but they don't seem to know. I think is would have been 
imperative that as few people as possible knew his role, whether trusted or 
not. 

You see, I don't think *Snape* was one of 'the old crowd' as such. I believe 
that Dumbledore was the only one with whom he had contact and that although 
the others knew Dumbledore had spies, they didn't know who they were.

We don't see McGonagall's reaction to Snape's dark mark, so we don't know 
whether she already knew, or whether her face registers shock or revulsion. 
Neither do we see Molly's or Bill's reactions, though I don't think they knew 
about it. In fact, even Sirius apparently doesn't react to it. 

And although McGonagall witnesses Crouch Jr's confession and Snape's 'coming 
out', Dumbledore doesn't let her witness Sirius' transformation, so he does 
seem to play some of his cards close to his chest.

I dunno. Perhaps she knows, perhaps she doesn't.

Eloise





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