MemoryCharm!Neville /Animagus!Harry /Orphan!Hagrid /Gay!Bill

[Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)]

No: HPFGUIDX 55258

Gregory Lynn wrote:

<< They know that memory charms can be broken however so if/when they 
need to get at the secret they can break it out of Neville's head. >>

We know from GoF that breaking a Memory Charm does major damage to 
the person's mind and body: "She told me many things -- but the means 
I used to break the Memory Charm upon her were powerful, and when I 
had extracted all useful information from her, her mind and body were 
both damaged beyond repair. She had now served her purpose. I could 
not possess her. I disposed of her." No good guy would make a plan in 
which retrieving the information requires that kind of damage to a 
child who was too young to be able to give any kind of informed 
consent. Some people think no good guy would make such a plan even if 
the person was an adult volunteer.

Many listies seem to think that the way to break a Memory Charm is to 
torture the person, with Cruciatis or Muggle-style burning and 
electric shocks, but I don't agree. I think that the way to break a 
Memory Charm is some specific spell for that purpose, with the pain 
and injury as side effects.

"Faith" wrote:

<< I knew it! I knew he was going to be an animagus! 

Any chance that Harry takes and struggles with Animagus lessons but 
fails to become an Animagus?

<< Any takes on what form he choses? I think a stag. >>

I believe that JKR said that Animagi don't get to choose their form, 
but instead the form reflects their personality. I think becoming a 
raven Animagus might suit his personality (black hair, good flyer, 
intelligent and persistent). I don't think JKR would choose a raven 
for  him, and she *might* choose a stag, but I don't think that the 
noble stag who is leader of a herd, who challenges others to combat, 
who poses on the ridgetop so the whole world can see how beautiful 
and powerful he is, is a good fit for Harry's personality. 

JOdel wrote:

<< We never hear Hagrid mention any relatives apart from his dead 
father and his absent mother. >>

H'mm. Think that Pappy Hagrid's family disowned him and cast him off 
because he married a giantess? 

Abigail sighed:

<< "Well, if you must know, I used the third task Fleur Delacour 
encounter that you two seem to find so romantic to suggest that Bill 
is the first canonically gay character in the series." >>

I dunno about *first* but I think Bill is gay, thus providing 
opportunity for two comic scenes. One where Fleur comes to a 
gathering at the Burrow to pursue him and all the other Weasley 
brothers are following after her with their tongues hanging out, 
and even Arthur gazes at her with a dreamy smile, but Bill is not 
affected at all, not even when she catches him alone and forces a 
kiss on him. He explains to Fleur (and the reader) why she doesn't 
have a chance with him, and thus the reader is in on the joke when 
Bill finally gets tired of Molly nagging him to find a nice young 
witch and settle down and start giving her grandchildren.

He tells her "I've already met the person with whom I want to spend 
the rest of my life, and it isn't a witch."

Molly: "You should know better than to think that your father and I 
would be prejudiced against a Muggle daughter-in-law. If she's the 
girl of your choic, I'm sure she's a very fine person."

Bill: "Not a Muggle."

Molly, shocked, sits down. "Not... not a Veela!"

Bill, amused: "He's a wizard."

The family is taken aback by this news and has some difficulty coming 
to terms with it. Ron has the most difficulty, but both Hermione and 
Harry lecture him about gay rights ... maybe all they know about gay 
rights is what they've seen on television, but Hermione has her 
ideals, and Harry has a strong sense that anything Uncle Vernon hates 
so much is likely to be a good thing. 

When the family is reconciled and welcomes Bill's boyfriend for a 
visit, and we readers meet him and find that he also is a fine young 
man, that's the set-up for "romance blooming in Bill's future, which, 
for a supporting character, is a sure-fire way to lower life 
expectancy."

Errol Owl wrote:

<< Er....cough...does the fact that Harry reacts so much less 
strongly to Fleur than Ron signify a significantly reduced libido 
toward women? >>

Yes.

I prefer Gay!Harry, but PreferringCelibacy!Harry is what I see in 
the text.