what about Hagrid with Crossbow? /Who knows Tom Riddle is Voldemort

[grace701]

No: HPFGUIDX 55466

Aja wrote:
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> This is why I think grace701's idea makes a lot of sense.  Hagrid 
> probably knows that whatever caused such havoc fifty years earlier 
> was caused by Tom Riddle/Voldemort.  If the same things are 
> happening, he must be back.  And if Voldemort appears at the door  
> and knocks, he is not likely to ask his old school chum Hagrid to 
> invite him in for tea.  And Hagrid isn't likely to be quick enough 
> to disarm Tom/V with a spell.
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Me:
It would seem a bit logical that Hagrid would want to use his 
crossbow.  It seems, imo, Hagrid doesn't know how to cast spells 
properly.  And if he tried to cast a spell to save his life, he 
knows he wouldn't be able to because he doesn't have the proper 
training.  We had proof in SS/PS when Hagrid tried to turn Dudley 
into a pig and was only successful in giving him a pig's tail.

> The foreshadowing here could be many things.  (1) Voldemort can be 
> killed, but *not* by magic - it will need to be a muggle invention 
> like a crossbow or gun, something his immortality spells can't 
> protect him from.  (2) A non-"pure bred" wizard will be the  
> downfall of Voldemort.  (3) Hagrid will cause a "friendly fire" 
> death in the future.  (4) Something Hagrid knows, or finds out, 
> will be extremely critical in the coming war.  (5) Hagrid believes 
> he will be killed by V or a DE, does not believe himself capable 
> of preventing it, and is making sure he figures out a way to take 
> some of them out with him.  
> Or others I can't come up with...

Me:
I like your foreshadowings Aja.  I'd like to comment on three of 
them, but either could be possible.  In regards to (1): This could 
happen if the Muggle World (MW) will get involved.  I'm not too 
sure, but didn't JKR mention that MW will be involved in WW.  
Although, it'll discredit this other theory/foreshadowing that I 
like:  Harry's blood in Voldemort will be V's downfall.  I guess it 
doesn't matter so long as the loser goes.  In regards to (2): I had 
stated before-hand that perhaps Harry is fighting the VWII for 
someone else and I cannot remember for the life of me, but someone 
here posted how ironic it would be for it to be a muggle-born 
(Hermione? =)) those who he hates the most, besides Harry Potter 
himself!  The irony is beautiful.  In regards to (4), Hagrid knows 
more than he's letting on.  Come on, how can you be one of 
Dumbledore's right-hand men/women and not know anything.  I've just 
thought that maybe all those "slips" in SS/PS was said intentionally 
to help HRH with their quest to find out what was under the trapdoor 
and who wanted to take it.  Has Hagrid ever let anything else "slip" 
in CoS, PoA and GoF?  I don't think so, but correct me if I'm 
wrong.  Then again, there wasn't any need for him to keep secrets, 
except about Sirius being Harry's parents bestfriend and his 
Godfather....hhmmm.
 
> Tangent thought:  why isn't it common knowledge that Tom Riddle 
> became Voldemort?  Wouldn't information like that be really useful 
> to the general public, especially clearing people like Hagrid who 
> were hurt by the seemingly-perfect prefect Tom Riddle in the past?


To add to the above.  In my original post, I put Tom 
Riddle/Voldemort when I really wanted to put just Voldemort and I 
couldn't remember for the life of me if Hagrid knows that Tom Riddle 
is Voldemort.  So could someone clear up who should know that Tom 
Riddle is Voldemort besides Dumbledore and Ollivander?

Greicy