Lucius's age and class year; Lily (was Re: Who knows Tom Riddle is Voldemort?)

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Phyllis wrote:
> In the Chamber (Ch. 17), Riddle tells Harry "It [Voldemort] was a 
> name I was already using at Hogwarts, to my most intimate friends 
> only, of course."  One of those "intimate" friends must be Lucius 
> Malfoy, since he possessed the diary with Tom Riddle's name 
> written 
> in it.  

Andrea wrote: 
> But when Draco was talking to Crabbe and Goyle about the Chamber of
> Secrets, he said, "It was fifty years ago, of course, so it was  
> before his
> time."  So Lucius was NOT at Hogwarts at the same time as Tom 
> Riddle.

Cassie wrote:

>I have to disagree with this a bit-mainly due to a difference in 
>age. Most if 
>not all of the DE's weren't at Hogwarts when Voldemort/Riddle was 
>there...they were there during Snape's time. And, though I can't 
>find any 
>canon at the moment, I suspect that Lucius is included in that. 

>As for Crouch JR...in "the pensieve" (GOF, ch 30 it says that he is 
>in his 
>late teens (hard back, 594). So he wasn't even born when LV was in 
>school. 


Okay I had the impression Lucius was in the same year as Snape, 
James, Sirius, Lupin and Pettigrew, but someone here (forgot who, 
sorry) told me that JKR has never said in canon that he was because 
it would have been mentioned that he was apart of Snape's clique 
which included the LeStranges and Rosier, IIRC.  But I still got the 
impression that he was a few years older than them.  At least 3 
years or at most 10 years older. If he were a few years older than 
he probably didn't hang out with them being that they were younger 
and in a different year.  In canon, do we ever see George, Fred and 
Lee Jordan hanging out with Ron, Hermione and Harry?  If they do it 
would seem to be during breakfast, lunch and dinner.  You tend to 
hang out more with people in your own year and only occassionally 
with those in other years.  We don't even see Houses interacting 
with one another on a Trio basis (very close friends), just 
socializing.  

*If* at that point, during the "Marauders'" junior-high school 
years, V was recruiting, the recruitees probably didn't want to make 
it obvious that there were other evil doers in the school and kept 
the attention to themselves.  (I'd like to call Snape's Clique: 
Voldemort's Indistinguishable Evil-doer's = VIE, new acronym =)!)

I can't wait to find out when Voldemort realized that the Potters' 
were a threat.  Was it when they were in high school?  

BTW, do we know that Lily was in Gryffindor?  I can't remember, as 
always.  I would love it if in OoP JKR could tell us, finally, if 
Lily was MWPP's age and if she hung out with them.  Or was she 
annoying like Hermione?  Obviously, James and her were "meddlesome" 
according to Lucius.  Wonder what they found out about him?

Greicy, who just realized that there are a lot of Trios running 
around Hogwart's: HRH, DCG, FGL (Fred, George, Lee), DMS 
(Dumbledore, McGonagall, Snape) and do Seamus, Dean and Neville 
count as a trio?