Lucius's age and class year; Lily (was Re: Who knows Tom Riddle is Voldemort?)

[erisedstraeh2002]

No: HPFGUIDX 55554

I originally wrote a post, in response to Greicy's question, which 
attempted to identify all individuals who might know that Voldemort 
was once called Tom Riddle. To which Andrea responded: 

> But when Draco was talking to Crabbe and Goyle about the Chamber of
> Secrets, he said, "It was fifty years ago, of course, so it was  
> before his time."  So Lucius was NOT at Hogwarts at the same time 
> as Tom Riddle.
 
and Cassie commented:

> Most if not all of the DE's weren't at Hogwarts when 
> Voldemort/Riddle was there...they were there during Snape's time. 
> And, though I can't find any canon at the moment, I suspect that 
> Lucius is included in that. As for Crouch JR...in "the pensieve" 
> (GOF, ch 30 it says that he is in his late teens (hard back, 594). 
> So he wasn't even born when LV was in school. 

Now me:

I'd just like to clarify that in my original post (which, admittedly, 
wasn't as clear as it could have been), I wasn't trying to imply that 
the DEs that I named as knowing that Voldemort was once called Tom 
Riddle were all at Hogwarts with Voldemort.  I was just trying to 
come up with a comprehensive list, as well as to identify any canon 
statements that provide clues to solving this question.

IIRC, there's no canon to support that most of the DEs were at 
Hogwarts with Snape - I think we see a wide range of ages among the 
DEs (from the elderly MacNair to the relatively young Barty Crouch 
Jr.), and I'm not sure they were all at Hogwarts in the first place 
(take Karkaroff, for example - we don't know for sure where he went 
to school, but would he be headmaster of Durmstrang if he didn't go 
to school there originally?).  Plus, I would think Durmstrang would 
be a more fertile ground for Voldie's recruiting efforts given its 
focus on dark magic.

I don't think Lucius was at Hogwarts with Snape - he seems older than 
Snape, and there's never any mention of Lucius being at Hogwarts at 
the same time James, Lily, Peter, Remus and Sirius were there (which 
was the same time that Snape was there).

Greicy asked:

> Do we know that Lily was in Gryffindor? 

Me again:

We do know that Lily was in Gryffindor - October 2000 Scholastic 
interview: Q: "Which house was Lily Potter in, and what is her maiden 
name?"  A: "Her maiden name was Evans, and she was in Gryffindor 
(naturally)."

(see: http://www.scholastic.com/harrypotter/author/transcript2.htm)

Greicy again:

> I would love it if in OoP JKR could tell us, finally, if Lily was 
> MWPP's age and if she hung out with them.  

Me again:

JKR tells us this in Ch. 4 of PS, when Petunia blurts out: "Then she 
[Lily] met that Potter at school..."

Greicy again:

> I can't wait to find out when Voldemort realized that the Potters' 
> were a threat.  Was it when they were in high school?  

Me again:

I doubt whether Voldemort would have waiting long to get rid of the 
Potters once he found out they were a threat.  As Fudge says in the 
Three Broomsticks: "Not many people are aware that the Potters knew 
You-Know-Who was after them.  Dumbledore, who was of course working 
tirelessly against You-Know-Who, had a number of useful spies.  One 
of them tipped him off, and he alerted James and Lily at once.  He 
advised them to go into hiding" (Ch. 10, PoA).  From this, I conclude 
that the Fidelius Charm was placed on James, Lily and Harry as soon 
as the "useful spy" let them know that Voldemort was after them, 
which I would assume wasn't long after Voldemort realized they were a 
threat.

~Phyllis