Hagrid as Gamekeeper (was Re: Protecting Privet Drive/witches'menopause/Animagi/

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 55749

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Ladi lyndi <ladilyndi at y...> wrote:
> --- darrin_burnett <bard7696 at a...> wrote:
> > Anyway, the point was made that just because Molly talks about 
> > Ogg the Gamekeeper doesn't mean Hagrid wasn't there in some form. 
> > I think  that still holds true.

> 
> 
> In CoS p. 230 (UK) Riddle tells Harry that
> Dumbledore persuaded Dippet to keep Hagrid and
> train him as gamekeeper after Hagrid was
> expelled. Therefore, the assumption would be
> that Hagrid was at Hogwarts when Molly Weasley
> was there.  While there hasn't been mention of a
> groundskeeper during the time Harry has been at
> Hogwarts, that doesn't mean there isn't one at
> present who just has not been named as yet.
> 
> Lynn 

bboy_mn:

Sorry, but you say 'the assumption would be that Hagrid wa at Hogwarts
when Molly was there'.

Again, sorry, maybe I should go back up the thread and read more
carefully, but I don't see why what you said leads to that conclusion
or assumption. I accept that that is your opinion; I see that, but I'm
missing the the association that would lead to "Therefore, the
assumption would be....".

Regarding Gamekeeper, groundskeeper, and Keeper of Keys, let me
introduce you to Rubeus Hagrid.

PS/SS AM PB pg 59

Harry looked up at the giant. .... "Who are you?"

The giant chuckled.

"True, I haven't introduced meself. Rubeus Hagrid, Keeper of Keys and
Grounds at Hogwarts".

Keykeeper
Gamekeeper
Groundskeeper
all Rubeus Hagrid

Hagrid was a homeless orphan when he was expelled. His father dead,
his mother run off, he was only 13, and (sorry Hagrid) not too bright.
I'm confident that they kept him on at Hogwart from the time he was
expelled out of the goodness of their hearts, and because they knew if
they really took a close look at what happened, they would see that it
couldn't have been Hagrid who killed that girl. They were like Fudge;
all they cared about was that they had a scapegoat and they could put
the incident behind them and not think about it. It would have only
take a superficial but objective look to see that spiders don't cause
the problems they were seeing.

So part of keeping Hagrid at Hogwarts was to cover their own butts.
Better to have him close by and under control than out in the world
explaining to people what really happened. By the time Hagrid was
allowed to go off campus unsupervised, the world had forgotten about
what the incident, or knew Hagrid well enough not to care.

Just a thought.

bboy_mn