Vampire Snape/Knowing Lucius was a DE/Remus as Spy (WAS: Thoughts and questions)

erisedstraeh2002 erisedstraeh2002 at yahoo.com
Thu Apr 24 18:21:43 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 56051

Rane wrote:

> I'm very sure this has been suggested more than once (though I've 
> never actually seen a *discussion* as such on it, just the 
> question): Snape being a vampire. <snip> What I 
> don't understand is the scene in PoA when Snape catches Harry 
> coming back from Hogsmeade and gets his hands on the Marauder's 
> Map. Just before sweeping Harry and Ron out of the room, Lupin 
> says: "I'd like to have a word about my vampire essay." <snip> So 
> then, my logical conclusion would be that Lupin said that thing 
> about the vampire essay to get back at Snape for the werewolf one, 
> and to shock him enough to manage to get the heel out of his office.

Now me:

There are HPfGU-ers who believe that Snape is a vampire, and 
certainly the descriptions in canon support such a theory (he's often 
described as "gliding," always dressed in black...).  With regard to 
Lupin's vampire essay reference - if Hermione was able to figure out 
that Lupin was a werewolf from Snape's assignment of the werewolf 
essay, presumably she would have been able to figure out that Snape 
is a vampire if Lupin had truly assigned the vampire essay (and if 
Snape truly is a vampire).  So I don't think Lupin really did assign 
it - I agree with your theory that Lupin used it as a way to get out 
of the room quickly.

Rane again:

> But later, I started wondering if maybe Snape simply didn't *know* 
> Malfoy was a DE. 

Me again:

It seems to me that it's fairly common knowledge that Lucius was a 
DE.  As George tell Harry when they rescue him in the Anglia:  "He 
[Lucius] was a big supporter of You Know Who."  And Fred chimes 
in: "And when You Know Who disappeared...Lucius Malfoy came back 
saying he'd never meant any of it.  Load of dung - Dad reckons he was 
right in You Know Who's inner circle."  The book then goes on to 
say "Harry had heard these rumours about Malfoy's family before..." 
(CoS, Ch. 3).  Even Borgin the shopkeeper says under his 
breath "...and if the stories are true, you haven't sold me half of 
what's hidden in your *manor*..." (CoS, Ch. 4).

Rane again:

> Speaking of spies, why did Sirius think Remus was the spy when LV 
> was threatening James' life? 

Well, as Professor McGonagall tells the group in the Three 
Broomsticks: "He [Dumbledore] was sue that somebody close to the 
Potters had been keeping You-Know-Who informed of their 
movements...Indeed, he had suspected for some time that someone on 
our side had turned traitor and was passing a lot of information to 
You-Know-Who" (PoA, Ch. 10).  Since "somebody close to the Potters" 
was suspected, it's logical that Sirius would have suspected Remus 
and that Remus would have suspected Sirius.

~Phyllis





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